[arsenalforever]

I just wanted to get your guys take on the strengths and weakness's of BB10?

Did you think it was a failure or a winner?

what was the turning point of it been great or been bad?

[blue-stairs-rock-x]

I think one of the main problems of this year was the block-nominating,It got rid of a lot of Good housemates as well as stopping us getting rid of the Bad ones.

I personally also found the bullying of Freddie quite difficult to watch at times.

They had a good mix of Housemates this year but The block-nominating got rid of pretty much all of them.

I think this series could have been one of the best if the producers had done it right by making sure that the public had a fair chance of getting out who they want instead of protecting thier favourites,If they had done that as well as not trying to manipulate the public into disliking certain housemates and maybe a good twist this year would have been great.

[ManicWolf]

I think most BBs are made by the housemates. If you don't like the housemates then it's a good chance you're not going to like the show, no matter what BB does. I do think this year had a lot of unlikeable hms, more so than any other year, imo.

If it hadn't been for me liking Freddie so much right from the start I probably would have turned off in the first week because I found most the other unlikeable and unwatchable (with the exception of Marcus, Angel, and Siavash whom I liked more as the series progressed).

I so also think that the fact that Lisa's group was able to control the votes by ganging up made it pretty bad. The point of BB is supposed to be that WE decide, but when all said and done this year it was mostly Lisa's group who decided.

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2573067&tid=147723&author=ManicWolf]I think most BBs are made by the housemates. If you don't like the housemates then it's a good chance you're not going to like the show, no matter what BB does. I do think this year had a lot of unlikeable hms, more so than any other year, imo.

If it hadn't been for me liking Freddie so much right from the start I probably would have turned off in the first week because I found most the other unlikeable and unwatchable (with the exception of Marcus, Angel, and Siavash whom I liked more as the series progressed).

I so also think that the fact that Lisa's group was able to control the votes by ganging up made it pretty bad. The point of BB is supposed to be that WE decide, but when all said and done this year it was mostly Lisa's group who decided. [/rquote]

the worse thing for me was for the first time the bad guys won
once Freddie left and Bea betraying him i decide to turn off cause although i liked Marcus i knew he was going soon after.

[ManicWolf]

[rquote=2573073&tid=147723&author=arsenalforever]

the worse thing for me was for the first time the bad guys won
once Freddie left and Bea betraying him i decide to turn off cause although i liked Marcus i knew he was going soon after. [/rquote]

Same here, I was praying from the beginning no-one from Team Nasty would win, Sophie included. Sadly it seems that so long as you're good looking and a little ditzy then it doesn't matter if you're bitchy with it.

When Freddie went I was really hard pushed to keep watching, and it was only because I wanted Marcus to win as my second choice after Freddie that I even did bother. When it came to the inevitable Marcus V Siavash vote I really thought Marcus would stay, even just by a small margin.

After Marcus went I pretty much accepted Sophie would win.

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2573081&tid=147723&author=ManicWolf][rquote=2573073&tid=147723&author=arsenalforever]

the worse thing for me was for the first time the bad guys won
once Freddie left and Bea betraying him i decide to turn off cause although i liked Marcus i knew he was going soon after. [/rquote]

Same here, I was praying from the beginning no-one from Team Nasty would win, Sophie included. Sadly it seems that so long as you're good looking and a little ditzy then it doesn't matter if you're bitchy with it.

When Freddie went I was really hard pushed to keep watching, and it was only because I wanted Marcus to win as my second choice after Freddie that I even did bother. When it came to the inevitable Marcus V Siavash vote I really thought Marcus would stay, even just by a small margin.

After Marcus went I pretty much accepted Sophie would win. [/rquote]

thats my probelm with BB over the last three years, they've had winners who wouldn't be in the top ten of all time of best HM's. they were picked for been dumb or been harmless but boring.

i gave up the week Freddie went and can't remember anything that happened after

[karezza]

What went wrong:

1 Lisa survived too long - she should have been ejected for bullying.
2 Kris was sacrificed by BB - he didn't receive one nomination the week he was evicted.
3 Isaac shouldn't have been a housemate.
4 Housemates who refused to nominate should have been ejected.
5 BB should be impartial & non-partisan.
6 BBLB & BBBM should stop the reverse psychology & manipulation.
7 There should be more housemates at the start and no nominations for the first 4 weeks.
8 Charlie, Sophie & Rodrigo had it too easy.
9 Freddie & Marcus should not have been up for eviction together.
10 Tom leaving was a big loss.

[ricky2k9]

This series was surely a winner. My only complaint is that Lisa stayed for too long, would have been better if Freddie took her place. Reflecting on that actually, her and David as aliens in London was a classic.

Basically Freddie should have stayed longer imo but other than that, it is a fantastic series.

[InOne]

It is sad that a member of Lisa's gang won. It looked as though they were going one by one until the new HM's came in. Bea went all out to destroy Freddie and did very well. Noirin also destroyed Marcus and Siavash. BB should not have let Siavash get his way and nominations should not have been allowed to be discussed. It allowed Charlie to stick the knife into Charlie, and people like Lisa survive. Hira went the week she should have gone which one unlucky really.

[vladicus]

but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens

[ricky2k9]

[rquote=2573361&tid=147723&author=vladicus]but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens [/rquote]

Good point!!

Also another con for me is Bea left too early =/

[InOne]

[rquote=2573365&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9][rquote=2573361&tid=147723&author=vladicus]but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens [/rquote]

Good point!!

Also another con for me is Bea left too early =/[/rquote]

What can you possibly like about Bea apart from her looks?

[Niamh.]

[rquote=2573366&tid=147723&author=InOne][rquote=2573365&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9][rquote=2573361&tid=147723&author=vladicus]but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens [/rquote]

Good point!!

Also another con for me is Bea left too early =/[/rquote]

What can you possibly like about Bea apart from her looks?[/rquote]

Her looks??/

[Niamh.]

Pro's : Love them or Loathe them, they had a great bunch of HMs in there this year.
Con's : No effort or thought or imagination was put into the tasks and twists.

[Harry!]

Pro's - Mixed bunchh of housemates.
Con's - Channel 4 and the production crew.

[Jords]

[rquote=2573352&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9]This series was surely a winner. My only complaint is that Lisa stayed for too long, would have been better if Freddie took her place. Reflecting on that actually, her and David as aliens in London was a classic.

Basically Freddie should have stayed longer imo but other than that, it is a fantastic series.[/rquote]

I really like the fact you are big Bea fan but also love Freddie,
know idea why but hey.

Pros:
Good selection of HMs, with Freddie, Marcus, Noirin & Bea the 4 main characters which built the show, Sree did as well.

Cons:
Block voting, altho we have to expect that, people who go in with a gameplan need to block vote in order to go far,
and we all love to hate gameplanners. So it is a con to the fact it got many good HMs out, but is also neccesary.
No big twists to enhance entertainment, very disappointed by this.
BB being very biased, they clearly played the HMs on who would go up and who would go. The time Lisa would have gone, they changed the vote to vote to save, so Hira went, was so mad at the time about this, Hira was lovely.

Thats about it, altho there arnt many pros I can think of, 1, lmao, the HMs are the main subject, if they were bad(like BB4s bunch), it would be appauling. Loved the selection choice.

[ricky2k9]

[rquote=2573366&tid=147723&author=InOne][rquote=2573365&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9][rquote=2573361&tid=147723&author=vladicus]but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens [/rquote]

Good point!!

Also another con for me is Bea left too early =/[/rquote]

What can you possibly like about Bea apart from her looks?[/rquote]

Shes a fun girl. I know many people think she turned halfway through her time in the BB from fun "hippie" to some kind of wicked witch. But as Siavash said in the diary room once it was not the case. Plus many housemates have said that she was editted badly. IMO I think Bea really is a nice girl, you could see it from in the house. I reckon Freddie liking her and following her around all the time more than the BB cameras lol freaked her out.

[Braden]

the good points where how diverse the characters where
and how obvious the clicks were

the low points is how they put obviously boring people in !

[Scarlett.]

Pro's
It ended

Con's
It's back next year

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2573352&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9]This series was surely a winner. My only complaint is that Lisa stayed for too long, would have been better if Freddie took her place. Reflecting on that actually, her and David as aliens in London was a classic.

Basically Freddie should have stayed longer imo but other than that, it is a fantastic series.[/rquote]

I think Bringing in Bea gave C4 and BB bosses the winner they wanted. Bea was like a hurricane and destroyed the red hot favourite and gave the show a proper villian. But the truth was Bea destroyed Bea by befriending a guy who was liked and then betraying him and giving BB editors the tools to paint her real bad.

[arsenalforever]

[rquote=2573834&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9][rquote=2573366&tid=147723&author=InOne][rquote=2573365&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9][rquote=2573361&tid=147723&author=vladicus]but ricky what if it had be marcus and freddie as aliens [/rquote]

Good point!!

Also another con for me is Bea left too early =/[/rquote]

What can you possibly like about Bea apart from her looks?[/rquote]

Shes a fun girl. I know many people think she turned halfway through her time in the BB from fun "hippie" to some kind of wicked witch. But as Siavash said in the diary room once it was not the case. Plus many housemates have said that she was editted badly. IMO I think Bea really is a nice girl, you could see it from in the house. I reckon Freddie liking her and following her around all the time more than the BB cameras lol freaked her out.[/rquote]

the way she backstabbed and treated Freddie will always have me disliking her. I wouldn't listen to Siavash cause he's a wimp and cheater and she was the one who came on to Freddie and befriended him first

[CaPPa]

Pros:
Some interesting housemates.

Cons:
Block voting, Lisa's gang eliminated too many good housemates.
The 'bad guys' won this year, which was strange as the public don't usually support the bully types.
The tasks were fairly poor compared to previous years.
A lot of bias from BB, more noticable than in other years.
Pathetic enforcement of rule breaking, often actually rewarding the rule breakers.

[blue-stairs-rock-x]

[rquote=2573352&tid=147723&author=ricky2k9]This series was surely a winner. My only complaint is that Lisa stayed for too long, would have been better if Freddie took her place. Reflecting on that actually, her and David as aliens in London was a classic.

Basically Freddie should have stayed longer imo but other than that, it is a fantastic series.[/rquote]

Im really curious about this,I really dont see how you can be a Freddie and a Bea fan with the way Bea treated Freddie,can you explain?

[mizzy25]

some good characters but i really hated siavash, i didnt really like the begining when they had to earn their place as hms and i think they out too many people in although bea was a very big character and i loved david. i think no evictions fir two weeks wud b great then that way characters wud b starting to show. i also think refusal to nominate they shud b kicked out immedicatly

[yousoboo!]

Freddie got evicted too early. He had his faults but he was a top 3 BB HM of all time. Instead we had to watch Lisa smoke at the bus stop for a month.