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![]() 12 years wasted under New Labour It is Time For Change. Sign Of The Times. |
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Arista this government have spent the past 12 years fixing the mess left behind by your lovely tory party..
Under the last government NHS waiting lists were months, even years! There was no minimum wage, the tory party was against it, many were working for £1 per hour, even less! Only Labour made the changes.. And thats what the Labour government have been doing, cleaning up the mess. People want change, and David Cameron will only fail... Arista you have fallen into the media trap, the media want a new government because they are bored with Labour, thats all it is, happens all the time... Arista you need to wise up. |
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No Media trap
the UK has had Enough of New Labour. The BNP got into Main Stream Power because of New Labour voters staying at home and not voting. Brown is the Problem it is all his vision - solo. He is the Fall Guy. He alone has wrecked the New Labour vision. Fact. He was on ITV1 , SkyNews and BBC1 this morning one after another. This Paper Dumping New Labour does Destroy Brown. And although Cameron and Clegg have both agreed for a Live TV Debate Brown is running scared. |
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Your are wrong
the 2009 Conservative Party is going to take action. You are living in the past. It is Time For Change. We have every Right to change. |
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"Brown loses his cool: PM's fightback backfires as he tries to storm out of TV interview"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...interview.html Michael White Explains what this means http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...-conservatives |
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[rquote=2615062&tid=148310&author=andyman]Arista this government have spent the past 12 years fixing the mess left behind by your lovely tory party..
Under the last government NHS waiting lists were months, even years! There was no minimum wage, the tory party was against it, many were working for £1 per hour, even less! Only Labour made the changes.. And thats what the Labour government have been doing, cleaning up the mess. People want change, and David Cameron will only fail... Arista you have fallen into the media trap, the media want a new government because they are bored with Labour, thats all it is, happens all the time... Arista you need to wise up. [/rquote] I agree with this. I don't trust the Tories. They're a bit pathetic when it comes to social situations. Fairly good with economic factors mainly because they have a good working relationship with the City and I think that still exists. Labour should not have put Gordon Brown in power. He just doesn't ooze confidence of a leader and the you need that confidence to back up your rhetoric. If you respond with your head sunk in your shoulders, people won't care. Then on the other end we've got David Cameron just hurling abuse and bullying. The only other option is Nick Clegg and God knows what they're standing for because they're always arguing. The credit crisis was going to happen anyway. It was meant to happen. We had almost 20 years of booming industry and we're still in that phase of boom. Trade and Economy and Manufacturing is high for the UK and soon as we're back on track the world will be relying upon us. It all depends on which party can make the best case possible. I would rather trust Labour when money comes rushing in. The Tories will probably cock things up and then we'll be voting Labour again. |
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tories - bunch of toffs who care only for themselves and there peers
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[rquote=2615381&tid=148310&author=Nathan]tories - bunch of toffs who care only for themselves and there peers[/rquote]
New Labour made a big Error saying that as no one can help where they went to school. In a Local Election New Labour lost as they put loads of there people in Top hats. That kind of prejudice is not what New Labour is about. It is Time For Change. |
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[rquote=2615409&tid=148310&author=arista][rquote=2615381&tid=148310&author=Nathan]tories - bunch of toffs who care only for themselves and there peers[/rquote]
New Labour made a big Error saying that as no one can help where they went to school. In a Local Election New Labour lost as they put loads of there people in Top hats. That kind of prejudice is not what New Labour is about. It is Time For Change.[/rquote] What kind of change? Has Cameron got a pot of Gold? He wants to cut public spending and at a far worse rate than Labour. The idiot wants to hand over database plans to GOogle. If you have so much faith in him - good luck to you. |
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The other thing is, David Cameron has said he wants to cut public spending. Brown has said the same but he is intending on cutting public spending in places where it won't hit the unemployed and those in hard times.
Cameron on the other hand wants to hit people where it hurts because he has said, there will be tough decisions and then the cheeky git goes and blames Labour for the tough decisions when in fact Labour's policies are in favour for the vast majority of the country. Cameron would have bankrupted this country. He was against fiscal stimulus, against easing money into the economy, he was against bailing out banks - basically, if he went against all that, the rest of the world would have shot us and we would have been in a far worse place. Because of Brown we have come out of this far better off than we would have been. There is money available and a collective effort by nations has brought some out of recession and has seen less of a fall in the economy of other nations. Voting Cameron could take us to the Dogs. We need Labour in this instance and it's what the world is saying but we're such lap dogs to Tabloids here we'll end up voting Cameron. He has no policies for the working person. All he is interested in his hard decisions and I will laugh my head off when the Labour Party and Lib Dems crucify him if he goes into power. Oddly the British Public will have egg on their face and the Tabloids will be simply calling Cameron a liar. |
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"If you have so much faith in him - good luck to you" Thank You. |
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Holy **** I mean the Sun, what has the world come to when people glorify what tablid chooses to back which Party......
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[rquote=2615565&tid=148310&author=Iceman]Holy s*** I mean the Sun, what has the world come to when people glorify what tablid chooses to back which Party......[/rquote]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/b...-conservatives It is Normal It has a Important History. ![]() |
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![]() Union Boss goes into a Frenzy ripping up todays Sun Paper. If he thinks it is a threat he should not talk about it and the Public want to know what the Freaking Hell the Unions are doing letting the Postal Workers go on Illegal strikes. Why Does New Labour not deal with the Postal Workers? It Is Time For a Change. |
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![]() His microphone tethers him to his seat as Adam Boulton looks on. ![]() Then after finishing an interview with the BBC's Sian Williams, Mr Brown briefly stood between the live camera and presenter. Williams told him that he can stand there if he wanted ![]() 1992 election day Front page. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...interview.html Rattled Brown takes a battering: He cuts interview short as besieged New Labour closes ranks. One Eyed Scottish Brown yesterday morning running out on 2 big interviews. Pathetic. ![]() Todays Attack on Stinking New Labour It Is Time For Change. |
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![]() His microphone tethers him to his seat as Adam Boulton looks on. ![]() Then after finishing an interview with the BBC's Sian Williams, Mr Brown briefly stood between the live camera and presenter. Williams told him that he can stand there if he wanted ![]() 1992 election day Front page. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...interview.html Rattled Brown takes a battering: He cuts interview short as besieged New Labour closes ranks. One Eyed Scottish Brown yesterday morning running out on 2 big interviews. Pathetic. ![]() Todays Attack on Stinking New Labour It Is Time For Change. |
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Gordon Brown has done nothing wrong except:
Sell off our gold at a cheap price. Let in millions of unwanted immigrants. Preside over an economic collapse. Waste billions of taxpayers money. Increase unemployment to 6 million. Give away more powers to the EU. |
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Gordon Brown has done nothing wrong except:
Sell off our gold at a cheap price. Let in millions of unwanted immigrants. Preside over an economic collapse. Waste billions of taxpayers money. Increase unemployment to 6 million. Give away more powers to the EU. |
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Yes Not giving the UK Public the Promised
Vote on Europe shows he can never be trusted. |
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Yes Not giving the UK Public the Promised
Vote on Europe shows he can never be trusted. |
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Its obvious the tories are going to win the next election and it will be the gullable working class people that put them there. Sadly the tory party don't really care about that class, so the next 4 years will be hell for them.
You can knock Labour all you want but the amount they have done for the country is undeniable and I'm sick to death of arista's endless tirade against them. Yes we get the message you don't like them but its time to start looking at the positives and realising they haven't done as much bad as you think. The media is just a vicious cycle. In 4-10 years time (depending when the press can be arsed) we'll be hearing the same headlines but about the tories, and labour will come in to save the day. Then 4-10 years after that it will be back to labour. Its how it all weeks, it will never stop being like that ![]() All that said, GB is a crap leader |
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Its obvious the tories are going to win the next election and it will be the gullable working class people that put them there. Sadly the tory party don't really care about that class, so the next 4 years will be hell for them.
You can knock Labour all you want but the amount they have done for the country is undeniable and I'm sick to death of arista's endless tirade against them. Yes we get the message you don't like them but its time to start looking at the positives and realising they haven't done as much bad as you think. The media is just a vicious cycle. In 4-10 years time (depending when the press can be arsed) we'll be hearing the same headlines but about the tories, and labour will come in to save the day. Then 4-10 years after that it will be back to labour. Its how it all weeks, it will never stop being like that ![]() All that said, GB is a crap leader |
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[rquote=2615452&tid=148310&author=MassiveTruck]The other thing is, David Cameron has said he wants to cut public spending. Brown has said the same but he is intending on cutting public spending in places where it won't hit the unemployed and those in hard times.
Cameron on the other hand wants to hit people where it hurts because he has said, there will be tough decisions and then the cheeky git goes and blames Labour for the tough decisions when in fact Labour's policies are in favour for the vast majority of the country. Cameron would have bankrupted this country. He was against fiscal stimulus, against easing money into the economy, he was against bailing out banks - basically, if he went against all that, the rest of the world would have shot us and we would have been in a far worse place. Because of Brown we have come out of this far better off than we would have been. There is money available and a collective effort by nations has brought some out of recession and has seen less of a fall in the economy of other nations. Voting Cameron could take us to the Dogs. We need Labour in this instance and it's what the world is saying but we're such lap dogs to Tabloids here we'll end up voting Cameron. He has no policies for the working person. All he is interested in his hard decisions and I will laugh my head off when the Labour Party and Lib Dems crucify him if he goes into power. Oddly the British Public will have egg on their face and the Tabloids will be simply calling Cameron a liar.[/rquote] ![]() |
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[rquote=2615452&tid=148310&author=MassiveTruck]The other thing is, David Cameron has said he wants to cut public spending. Brown has said the same but he is intending on cutting public spending in places where it won't hit the unemployed and those in hard times.
Cameron on the other hand wants to hit people where it hurts because he has said, there will be tough decisions and then the cheeky git goes and blames Labour for the tough decisions when in fact Labour's policies are in favour for the vast majority of the country. Cameron would have bankrupted this country. He was against fiscal stimulus, against easing money into the economy, he was against bailing out banks - basically, if he went against all that, the rest of the world would have shot us and we would have been in a far worse place. Because of Brown we have come out of this far better off than we would have been. There is money available and a collective effort by nations has brought some out of recession and has seen less of a fall in the economy of other nations. Voting Cameron could take us to the Dogs. We need Labour in this instance and it's what the world is saying but we're such lap dogs to Tabloids here we'll end up voting Cameron. He has no policies for the working person. All he is interested in his hard decisions and I will laugh my head off when the Labour Party and Lib Dems crucify him if he goes into power. Oddly the British Public will have egg on their face and the Tabloids will be simply calling Cameron a liar.[/rquote] ![]() |
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