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Old 01-06-2009, 11:54 AM #76
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Can go two ways....

a) They speculate big huge TERRORIST ATTACKS, so close to their land!! Aaargh.
b) They don't give a flying feck, it's not on their land, it's not their people.... "France who?"
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Can go two ways....

a) They speculate big huge TERRORIST ATTACKS, so close to their land!! Aaargh.
b) They don't give a flying feck, it's not on their land, it's not their people.... "France who?"
Second option is the most likely. They hate us after the Irak thing.
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Can go two ways....

a) They speculate big huge TERRORIST ATTACKS, so close to their land!! Aaargh.
b) They don't give a flying feck, it's not on their land, it's not their people.... "France who?"
Probably the first..

Remember when there was the terror attack on Glasgow Airport, and they were like
'ZOMG ALL SIGNS POINT TO US BEING NEXT !!''
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Listen to how dramatic they made it !
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Now it has been made official, the plane has had an electrical problem after getting through a big thunderstorm zone. The authorities received a message at 2:14am (GMT time) indicating there was a problem with the electric devices. It was the last signal from the plane.
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Lol @ attack imminent for the UK

FOX = IDIOTS
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France are still yet to have a terrorist attack and surely they are next on osamas list
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France are still yet to have a terrorist attack and surely they are next on osamas list
Yes I'm sure we are next. We have had several threats from the Middle East so it's going to hit us one day.
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Now it has been made official, the plane has had an electrical problem after getting through a big thunderstorm zone. The authorities received a message at 2:14am (GMT time) indicating there was a problem with the electric devices. It was the last signal from the plane.
Thats a shame. Condolances to the families.
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Now it has been made official, the plane has had an electrical problem after getting through a big thunderstorm zone. The authorities received a message at 2:14am (GMT time) indicating there was a problem with the electric devices. It was the last signal from the plane.
Just saw that on bbc.
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It was also said that some bits of the plane have been discovered by the Portuguese coasts. Waiting to be confirmed by the French officials.
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From Air France, the most likely hypothesis is that the plane has been struck by a thunderstorm.
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Listen to how dramatic they made it !
FOX NEWS is **** and very Republican.

CNN is the best of the American channels I think

& about this passanger jet, its really strange and also really bad hearing that Air France are feeling like theres 'no hope' of finding the plane. It seems to me like its just went down in the Atlantic somewhere.
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A full recap of what happened since this morning.

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PARIS, France (CNN) -- An Air France plane feared to have crashed in the Atlantic with 228 people aboard reported electrical problems in stormy weather before it lost contact, the airline said Monday, describing the loss as a "catastrophe."
The incident involves an Air France Airbus A330-200.

The Airbus A330-200 sent an automatic message signalling an electric circuit failure as it hit turbulence early in its 11-hour flight from Rio de Janeiro to Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris, Air France CEO Pierre-Henri Gourgeon told a news conference.

The last known contact with the plane was at 1:33 GMT Monday (8:33 p.m. Sunday ET), according to the Brazilian Air Force.

Brazil says it has launched two air force squadrons to hunt near the archipelago of Fernando de Noronha in the Atlantic Ocean, 365 kilometres (226 miles) from its coast, although the plane vanished outside the country's radar coverage.

A statement from the Brazilian Air Force said the jet was last logged flying at an altitude of 35,000 feet before contact was lost. When the plane failed to make further contact, Brazilian air controllers contacted their counterparts in Senegal.

France's ambassador to Senegal told CNN affiliate BFMTV that French military aircraft had been dispatched to search the west African country's coast.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy expressed his "very deep concern" and asked the government "to implement every effort to find the plane," according to a statement from his office.

Agence France-Presse quoted France's Environment Minister Jean Louis Borloo saying that it was extremely unlikely the plane had been hijacked.

Flight AF 447, took off at 2230 GMT Sunday (6 p.m. ET). It was carrying 126 men, 82 women, seven children and a baby, in addition to the crew, Air France said.

"I can say without doubt that this is a catastrophe," Gourgeon said, adding "the entire Air France company and its staff are very moved and affected by this."

There has been speculation it was struck by lightning, but that should not bring down a modern airliner, former Airbus pilot John Wiley told CNN.

Some members of the families could be seen entering a special terminal set aside for them at Charles de Gaulle airport.

A crisis centre was being set up at at the airport to deal with anxious relatives and friends waiting for news of passengers. Air France has also set up a hotline: 0800 800 812 in France, or +33 157021055 for international callers.

Airbus has opened a crisis room and their flight safety team is in place, a company spokesperson told CNN. Airbus is working closely with authorities and Air France, he said, declining to comment further.

Gourgeon said the aircraft involved was a new Airbus piloted by a "particularly experienced crew."

Analyst Kieran Daly of online aviation news service Air Transport Intelligence told CNN that the lack of communication with the aircraft "does suggest it was something serious and catastrophic."

He said the aircraft involved is believed to be one delivered to Air France in April 2005.

"It is an extremely young fleet by aviation standards," he said. "The A330 is state-of-the-art with extremely reliable engines made by General Electric."

CNN air travel expert Richard Quest says the twin-engined plane, a stalwart of trans-Atlantic routes, has an impeccable safety record.

"It has very good range, and is extremely popular with airlines because of its versatility," he said.
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god that must be so awful for the families involved. I mean to have no trace of where they're loved ones are.
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Apparently, the plane is not underwater because a relative of a man on board phoned his mobile phone, and it rings, so they must be above water.
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Nobody knows where they are. Also, the Air France headquarters don't answer calls from the public which is weird. Either they know what's going on or they don't answer in case to make a big panic.

But this is scary.


They have to search underwater.
It takes time to get the correct info.

It is Not Scary.
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They have found debris in the middle of the Atlantic.

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Brazilian aircraft searching for an Air France jet which went missing with 228 people aboard in an Atlantic storm have spotted debris on the ocean.
Some oil, a plane seat and other items were sighted 650km (400 miles) north-east of Brazil's Fernando de Noronha island, the Brazilian air force said.
The find can only be confirmed once the items are retrieved and the first boat is not due to arrive until Wednesday.
The jet was heading from Brazil to Paris when it vanished early on Monday.
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It [the plane] might have tried to make a turn, maybe to return to Fernando de Noronha
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Air force spokesman Col Jorge Amaral said the debris had been spotted by search planes early on Tuesday.
"At approximately 0530 Brazilian time [0830 GMT], a C-130 military aircraft spotted some debris in two locations approximately 60km apart from each other," he said.
"In this area, they saw an orange buoy, an airplane seat, small white pieces, an airplane turbine as well as oil and kerosene.
"The search is continuing because it's very little material in relation to the size [of the Airbus A330]."
Officials, he said, needed "a piece that might have a serial number, some sort of identification" to be sure it came from the missing jet.

Brazilian air force's Col Jorge Amaral confirming the sighting - translated

French Defence Minister Herve Morin has stressed there is still "no evidence whatsoever" as to the cause of the plane's loss
"We cannot, by definition, exclude a terrorist attack, because terrorism is the main threat for all Western democracies," he added.
'Life jacket'
Plane crews from Brazil, France and other countries had narrowed their search to a zone half-way between Brazil and west Africa, hoping to pick up signals from the Airbus's beacons.

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Flight AF 447 left Rio at 1900 local time (2200 GMT) on Sunday
Airbus A330-200 carrying 216 passengers and 12 crew
Contact lost 0130 GMT
Missed scheduled landing at 1110 local time (0910 GMT) in Paris

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Col Amaral was also quoted by the Associated Press as saying a life jacket had been spotted amid the debris.
"The locations where the objects were found are towards the right of the point where the last signal of the plane was emitted," he told reporters in Rio.
"That suggests that it might have tried to make a turn, maybe to return to Fernando de Noronha, but that is just a hypothesis."
Searchers now planned to focus their efforts on collecting the debris and trying to identify it, he said.
A French search plane flying out of Senegal on Monday was hindered by stormy conditions over the ocean.
Spanish and Senegalese aircraft have also been involved in the search effort.
Electrical failures
In his last radio message, at about 0200 GMT on Monday, the captain of Flight AF 447 reported entering turbulence, French media say.

Irish doctor Aisling Butler, 26, was flying back with two friends
Up to a dozen reports of electrical failures were sent automatically from the plane before it vanished over the ocean just after.
Most of the missing people are Brazilian or French but they include a total of 32 nationalities. Five Britons and three Irish citizens are among them.
Crisis centres have been set up at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris and Rio's Tom Jobim international airport.
One of the Brazilians on board was Pedro Luis de Orleans e Braganca, a direct descendent of the last Brazilian emperor, Dom Pedro II, a spokesman for the family said.
Three young Irish doctors were also aboard, returning from two-week holiday in Brazil. Aisling Butler's father John paid tribute to his 26-year-old daughter, from Roscrea, County Tipperary.
"She was a truly wonderful, exciting girl," he was quoted as saying by the Associated Press.
"She never flunked an exam in her life - nailed every one of them - and took it all in her stride."
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I have a phobia of planes so this happening would be the worst thing to happen to me, I dont think it could get any worse. Just the panic and everything and being so high up. Absoloutley horrific.
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Last time I was on a plane it went on fire.

and I've just changed my flights from Southampton to Glasgow, so no doubt, I'm either really lucky and the flight i was on will crash, or unlucky and the plane I'm now going on will crash!
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Did the plane pass through the Bermuda Triangle?
Where is the triangle anyway? And ive never got what it actually was, is it a small island where things happen or is it a large piece of ocean that causes bad things to happen??

Because i heard that planes vanish when they go passed it, do planes pass it often because i havnt heard much about this and the dissaperance of planes recently??

Sorry if i sound very dumb when it comes to this.
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