[MrGaryy]

Well it's a number of many, many things really. I think in young teens it really just is a fear of going against the grain, I doubt half the 13 year olds labelling people as queer or fags, if you genuinely broke down their personality meant it in an offensive way but they know that if they speak in a way similar to others it will make them more acceptable. Not to excuse that sort of thing or anything, just my personal explanation.

In turn, this young upbringing - from their peers not their parents - gives them the mindset that gay is bad and straight is fine. Most people mean more to it than that, most people who use homophobic slurs aren't actually homophobic, merely ignorant.

and frankly I think people who are genuinely homophobic have WAY too much time on their hands if they feel so strongly about how people, who apparently disgust them, lives their lives.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Well it's a number of many, many things really. I think in young teens it really just is a fear of going against the grain, I doubt half the 13 year olds labelling people as queer or fags, if you genuinely broke down their personality meant it in an offensive way but they know that if they speak in a way similar to others it will make them more acceptable. Not to excuse that sort of thing or anything, just my personal explanation.

I'd agree with that.

Originally Posted by Lauren

On subject with Stu and Wildcat... I think homosexual 'sex' is neither normal nor abnormal, because it comes under the subject of sex - which is completely 100% natural. The desire of sex is fuelled by our need to reach a sexual pique, and whicever way this is achieved is natural. Nothing to do with procreation in my view.

And this, very good explanation.

Originally Posted by Spike

I think the main reason is children are brought up to think being straight is normal and maybe the only option. I know when I was a child I didn't know that there could be such a thing as same sex couples, if people were more open with their children about this kind of thing then maybe homophobia would die out

This is pretty much what I believe but just put into a simpler form. Like Stu said earlier the thread, hopefully in the next generation homophobia will have been wiped out and only the small few will still be homophobic.

[Tom]

If homosexuality isn't normal then it wouldn't happen. It isn't forced on anyone. Its just less common than being straight.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never come across homophobia. In what form does the op mean? 1-5% of the UK is classed as homosexual so it must be few and far between. (although because of the bias towards tv entertainment it seems like higher)

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I never come across homophobia. In what form does the op mean? 1-5% of the UK is classed as homosexual so it must be few and far between. (although because of the bias towards tv entertainment it seems like higher)

Im positive that in the past 4 years, the % has gone from about 5% to about 10%(Ive heard this somehwere), which is actually more believable, judghing by TV shows, films, documentary, and reality, it seems that being gay is more common now... but im not sure if 10% is completely correct... thats 1 in 10 people!

However the % of hompphobic people have halved, I guess people will be less homophobic if there are more gay people as there will be less of a minority.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Im positive that in the past 4 years, the % has gone from about 5% to about 10%(Ive heard this somehwere), which is actually more believable, judghing by TV shows, films, documentary, and reality, it seems that being gay is more common now... but im not sure if 10% is completely correct... thats 1 in 10 people!

However the % of hompphobic people have halved, I guess people will be less homophobic if there are more gay people as there will be less of a minority.

I do not think you are correct.

[Spike]

I think the main reason is children are brought up to think being straight is normal and maybe the only option. I know when I was a child I didn't know that there could be such a thing as same sex couples, if people were more open with their children about this kind of thing then maybe homophobia would die out

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think that overall people with ginger hair get a far worse treatment. Numbers that is. I realise the odd person gets a hiding but overall I would say that people with ginger hair is a bigger ism or phobia

[Lee.]

What about females? How do women here feel about seeing two women together?

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by happyland

What about females? How do women here feel about seeing two women together?

I don't feel anything? I've probably seen it and not thought twice about it. I'm honestly not THAT arsed where people put their bits to be perfectly honest.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Lauren

I don't feel anything?

Shit.

All bets are off, lads. Put your cameras and dicks away.

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by Stu

Shit.

All bets are off, lads. Put your cameras and dicks away.

Bahahaha!

[BGT-FAN!]

Sterotypes in the media, e.g Jack form will and grace, chris crocker, graham norton etc etc

[zotler.]

I don't understand how I know a lot of straight men who find homosexual men couples disgusting, whereas they find female homosexual couples 'hot'. Is this just them being a dick? -.-

[supernoodles!]

Originally Posted by zotler.

I don't understand how I know a lot of straight men who find homosexual men couples disgusting, whereas they find female homosexual couples 'hot'. Is this just them being a dick? -.-

Straight men only find lesbians 'hot' because its basically two of what they are attracted too,there not going to find two gay men attractive because they don`t fancy men.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by supernoodles!

Straight men only find lesbians 'hot' because its basically two of what they are attracted too,there not going to find two gay men attractive because they don`t fancy men.

But attraction aside it is still hypocritical. They find something morally bankrupt about one and not the other. Being gay is being gay. Don't matter if you are a man or woman.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Stu

But attraction aside it is still hypocritical. They find something morally bankrupt about one and not the other. Being gay is being gay. Don't matter if you are a man or woman.

It's not hypocritical.. Surely you can understand why a straight man doesn't find gay men attractive? It is natural for a straight man to find two women sexually appealling , the same as it is natural for a gay man to find men attractive.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by happyland

It's not hypocritical.. Surely you can understand why a straight man doesn't find gay men attractive? It is natural for a straight man to find two women sexually appealling , the same as it is natural for a gay man to find men attractive.

Yes it is. We are not talking about attraction here. We are talking about the fact that they see nothing wrong with two females doing it but do with two males. Take attraction out of it.

Also, to Fom's point, yes, being gay was romanticized in plenty of ancient cultures.

[Fom]

I find Homophobia very weird... I don't quite understand where it originated. In history homosexuality has been very common, with kings doing it, writers, actors etc. In fact at one point in british history it was though that a man couldn't make love to a woman until a man had shown him how it was done first.

Homophobia is only quite recent. In the past few houndred years. I think it is more of a reflection of the arrogance and stubbornness that plagues society today.

[InOne]

Sort of off topic. But this song is about a girl who wants sex with a guy but he is gay and feel too ashamed to tell her. Then finds himself jealous when she goes off with someone else.

Youtube video

[Fom]

Shame that if a straight man knew what real life lesbians looked like and not porn star lesbians then they wouldn't be so attracted.

[LemonJam]

I think in some cases it's almost a trend.

Some of my friends said they hated gay people but when they knew I was bisexual all that homophobia went away suddenley. They haven't had a problem since (except one, but he's a fat ginger who looks like a butch lesbian anyway)

[Fom]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

I think in some cases it's almost a trend.

Some of my friends said they hated gay people but when they knew I was bisexual all that homophobia went away suddenley. They haven't had a problem since (except one, but he's a fat ginger who looks like a butch lesbian anyway)

I think thats the same with most things, Racism and Sexism included. You can say you hate someone for a certain thing but then when you speak to them you forget about it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i read recently that poor father, adult male relationships when young can lead to being homosexual as you try to compensate when reaching puberty. interesting take, especailly combined with the dominant female theory.

[Fom]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i read recently that poor father, adult male relationships when young can lead to being homosexual as you try to compensate when reaching puberty. interesting take, especailly combined with the dominant female theory.

I am strongly with the idea that you are born with a sexuality, you might not express it until later but if you are clearly gay then I think you are always meant to be. I think with people that are bisexual in nature... then your life can influence what you are maybe... you naturally get people who are more open with their sexuality than others.