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Old 06-02-2003, 07:19 PM #26
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Not being on AOL I didn't see that poll, but I would have voted exactly the same as you jbellemeg and Amy.
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I watched this Micheal Jackson documentary and i think it was disgusting, letting young children sleep in his bedroom, i mean thats to far, but also were are the parents! they must sure be mental , i know i wouldnt let a kid go and sleep at a 44year olds house , and then in another way when you look at him hes a very sad lonley man,
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Like many I think that michael jackson is not a nasty person but someone who is trying to relive his childhood and do the things that he wanted to do as a child but wasn't allowed to do.
However the bit that had me most worried was the line about wanting a child so much he carried a baby doll around,I think he should have tried to sort out his issues before becoming a parent,how will he feel when they grow up and leave him.
I think he should try and let them have some normality in their lives or they will end up with problems too,at some point in their lives they will be known to be his children and will be in for a great shock I don't think he will be able to protect them from the media for ever.
I know that I wouldn't let my child stay with him even if the allegations are false I don't think it is normal for a grown adult
to act as a child and for the children involved it must be very confusing,its ok that he feels he needs to make them feel loved but I think that this is not the way to go about it
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I do think that there are issues with his own children. I think he loves them dearly and would never do anything intentionally to harm them, but I do agree with you Rachb that some of the things he does may affect them in later life and that he isn't capable of seeing that.

It is a difficult one. I really hope that he doesn't lose his children as a result of this documentary, but I also feel that he needs help and advice from a responsible friend/adult about how what he is doing is percieved and the effects it could have on them.

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I think it is incredibly sad that Michael Jackson has turned out the way he has, I used to be a huge fan of his when I was a teenager and I still think he is a very talented man.

You can say he was used and abused in his youth, and he is totally innocent in his feelings towards children. I don't disagree with that!

But his children need a father, not another little boy who doesn't want to grow up!

They also need their mothers!!!!!!
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Think it might be better for him though, if he chilled out, I mean what good is it going to do him going to his lawyers. That just makes him look worried about something. Mind you, know ones going to tell him that, there all after what money they can get out of him. Sorry but I still think he's weird though. When he dangled that baby, he was sure living life on the edge there. and walking round the zoo with his kids in the middle of a rugby scrum. Holding a 12 year old kids hand on national telly. Has he no common sense. Maybe he likes the thrill of living on the edge, it's seems like that to me, but what do I know, I'm not a fan anyway, just slightly concerned for the kids.

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I'm not really a fan either Steve and never have been.

I don't think that it is him 'liking to live on the edge' at all.

He has been looking after the 12 year old boy and helping him get through the fact he has cancer. He has been offering him love and support and that was what was happening when he was holding his hand.

The trouble with Jackson is that he is totally naive of how his actions could look to the world in general. You ask if he has 'no common sense', and I think in this respect he doesn't, that's the problem.

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Martin Bashir will be following up the program on 'Tonight with Trevor MacDonald' on ITV1 tonight at 8pm.

It will be interesting to see what he has to say for himself.

I've just finished watching the Michael Jackson Tribute concert on ITV1 and he was absolutely brilliant.

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Maichael Jackson was apparently making his own video film at the same time as Martin Bashir, and is about to publish extract from it which apparently prove how two-faced Bashir was.

"The film shows extraordinary scenes of Martin Bashir praising the way Michael treats children and commenting on how good a father he is," said a statement released by the singer.

"The Jackson footage clearly shows that Bashir was actually continuing to praise Michael's abilities as a father and [shows] Bashir making statements about how he feels it is a pity that the world is so quick to criticise Michael. "

CLICK HERE to read the full article

If this is true it will be interesting to see Martin Bashir's response to this.

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I don't think it is normal for a grown adult
Let's face it, there is NOTHING normal about Michael Jackson.Whatever his problems he is also VERY selfish as everything was done because HE wanted it not because it was best for his or any children.

Frightening !
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A bit late but my two-pence worth:

I watched the repeat of the programme the other night and having done that I can only echo the comments of Kaz and Lee.

I found Martin Bashir's techniques to be troubling in this film. It seemed to me that his voiceover told a different story to the actual clips we were shown of Michael Jackson. And I didn't really understand the point of the interview at the end. It's not like he is some politician being cross-examined by Jeremy Paxman.

At the end of the day, what MJ has done to his face is his own responsibility. And the fact that he's lied about this may just be an indication that he is embarrassed to admit that he has taken the plastic surgery too far.

MJ is certainly unusual and mixed-up in many ways but I saw no evidence that he is actually bad. He definately needs to surround himself with people that are more honest with him, but in my opinion, this documentary just wasn't all that constructive.
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