[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If Children don't know what he does off the pitch is wrong then the parents have done something incredibly wrong, Stop expecting the media to raise your kids and teach them right from wrong yourself. 'Oh John Terry's gonna inspire my kid to do bad' 'Manhunt turned my kid into a killer' 'This film's currupted my child' SHUT THE ***** UP PARENTS OF THE WORLD. I can't stand scapegoating, If a kid does wrong then chances are it's the parent's fault for *****ing them up not anybody else's so that POS excuse can get out.

edit Seems the consensus of opinion in the UK is that JT got just what he deserved so luckily your attitudes are in the minority. JT even shagged Orlaith when his wife was pregnant - what a gent! And he's got a major fraud charge to answer next week! (waits for shrieks of "it's all lies I tell you") Oh and by the way Bridge and several other team members told Capello they had lost all respect for JT and didnt want him as captain (The Sunday Times today). Or do you only believe news stories that support your version of the truth? Seemingly though, even if you acknowledge its all true, you don't think any of it matters??? No wonder this country is in the sh*t.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by angus58

What a thoroughly charming person you are, your parents must be so proud Seems the consensus of opinion in the UK is that JT got just what he deserved so luckily your attitudes are in the minority. JT even shagged Orlaith when his wife was pregnant - what a gent! And he's got a major fraud charge to answer next week! (waits for shrieks of "it's all lies I tell you") Oh and by the way Bridge and several other team members told Capello they had lost all respect for JT and didnt want him as captain (The Sunday Times today). Or do you only believe news stories that support your version of the truth? Seemingly though, even if you acknowledge its all true, you don't think any of it matters??? No wonder this country is in the sh*t.

Personal attacks, lovely. My parents are proud, I know my own mind and don't suck up everything I read as truth and I don't need to blame others for stuff going wrong in my own life.

WHY should I care what some footballer does off the pitch? It doesn't affect me in any way and I'm not nosey enough to give a *****. As long as he breaks no laws he can do what he likes and I won't care, it doesn't change my life in any major way and neither does it yours. NOBODY in the England team is a role model, very few footballers are. They've all been involved in scandals so excuse me If I don't see them as role models. I'm not sticking up for him I'm just saying I don't care about him off the pitch.

After all that vitriol you've aimed at me for having an opinion, well you must be a paragon of Humanity.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by angus58

What a thoroughly charming person you are, your parents must be so proud Seems the consensus of opinion in the UK is that JT got just what he deserved so luckily your attitudes are in the minority. JT even shagged Orlaith when his wife was pregnant - what a gent! And he's got a major fraud charge to answer next week! (waits for shrieks of "it's all lies I tell you") Oh and by the way Bridge and several other team members told Capello they had lost all respect for JT and didnt want him as captain (The Sunday Times today). Or do you only believe news stories that support your version of the truth? Seemingly though, even if you acknowledge its all true, you don't think any of it matters??? No wonder this country is in the sh*t.

i dont care, i've got my own life to live
he hasn't killed or raped anybody, so i have no problem with him
whats he done to you, that you are so upset about? does his affair really affect YOU that much? so much so that you want him lynched?

get your head out of the clouds, and come in to the real world

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If Children don't know what he does off the pitch is wrong then the parents have done something incredibly wrong, Stop expecting the media to raise your kids and teach them right from wrong yourself. 'Oh John Terry's gonna inspire my kid to do bad' 'Manhunt turned my kid into a killer' 'This film's currupted my child' SHUT THE ***** UP PARENTS OF THE WORLD. I can't stand scapegoating, If a kid does wrong then chances are it's the parent's fault for *****ing them up not anybody else's so that POS excuse can get out.

perhaps if you have children, which i know is unlikely, you may change your minority opinion?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

perhaps if you have children, which i know is unlikely, you may change your minority opinion?

I don't and I wouldn't. You should never look to mould your life after someone else, Take inspiriations from their proffessional lives yes (I look upto a lot of people in my own field but I don't live my life by them). I'll tell my kids exactly the same thing, carve your own path in life.

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

perhaps if you have children, which i know is unlikely, you may change your minority opinion?

but, you cant exactly say: 'oh, my child behaves the way he does, because of John Terry!'

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is about what Terry represents. As captain he represents the FA, the sponsors, the people who buy tickets to watch the team. He represents the manager.

The people above do not want this immature, poorly educated, spineless cheat as their representative.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It is about what Terry represents. As captain he represents the FA, the sponsors, the people who buy tickets to watch the team. He represents the manager.

The people above do not want this immature, poorly educated, spineless cheat as their representative.

Fair point but for me personally I find it hard to care about what they do off the pitch.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The people above do not want this immature, poorly educated, spineless cheat as their representative.

agree, davina should be sacked

[Alf]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6409...gues-wife.html

have a go at this bloke (Andrew moss) instead, or is he not the fassion?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by wannashag

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6409...gues-wife.html

have a go at this bloke (Andrew moss) instead, or is he not the fassion?

to compare a insurance company with the England national team is silly

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

to compare a insurance company with the England national team is silly

i'm not comparing the company, i'm comparing the company boss, who earns much more money than john terry, if john terry has to be a role model in his chosen proffesion dont you think it's only right this company boss should be a role model in his?

that message says to kids, dont become a pro footballer or we'll hound you and dig up dirt about you, you will live life like an amateur monk or have your personal life in all the main news stories and judged by a nation who dont even know you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i'm not comparing the company, i'm comparing the company boss, who earns much more money than john terry, if john terry has to be a role model in his chosen proffesion dont you think it's only right this company boss should be a role model in his?

that message says to kids, dont become a pro footballer or we'll hound you and dig up dirt about you, you will live life like an amateur monk or have your personal life in all the main news stories and judged by a nation who dont even know you.

football players earn their money from the people who read tabloids and therefore will also be judged and juried by them as well. quid pro quo.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

football players earn their money from the people who read tabloids and therefore will also be judged and juried by them as well. quid pro quo.

so footballers dont earn their money for playing football?
time for your medication bud

[Dr.Gonzo]

He's a footballer, not a role model. That isn't to say that footballers can't be role models, but this one isn't... clearly.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

He's a footballer, not a role model. That isn't to say that footballers can't be role models, but this one isn't... clearly.

This post is the epitome of axiomatic!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

He's a footballer, not a role model. That isn't to say that footballers can't be role models, but this one isn't... clearly.

Sure but the Shareholders
Money is above Terry.

[Crimson Dynamo]

bit off topic but

arsenal?



its over. go home.

[Alf]

your determined to have the last word
ok you win

[setanta]

I can't believe people are still waffling about this. Do you honestly think Capello is the kind of man to demote a player simply because of rumours and gossip? He made the right decision based on what's best for the team and he's not one to avoid backing a player if he thinks he's been unfairly treated. Game over. Stop talking about it for feck sake.