[Fangz]

Originally posted by Ziola
About passive smoking, there's nothing to stop the person who doesn't want smoke in their face from moving.

Why should someone be forced to inconvenience themselves because someone else is a drug addict? Not being forced to have your lungs rotted away against your wishes should be a basic human right.
Lighting up outside is one thing, but to do so in a small, enclosed environment without good ventilation isn't fair.

[Esperanto]

I think the smoking ban is unfair. I have no problems about not smoking in restaurants, and i think pubs should have a smoking/non smoking side. However since the ban I have no problems going outside and have to admit that the pubs are a lot more pleasant(although you can smell b.o. and farts more LOL). Now I know (well in scotaland) for a fact 7 years ago pubs were told to have a designated smoking area hence the ban. SO I kind of understand this ban.As I said I have no problem with the ban. But I do think that it is a bit extreme, what about private clubs? The one I goto spent over £11,000 on ventilation/air con, no smking at the bar and designated smoking areas. I think a club where people can choose to be a member/work there if they wish should be exempt. I wish they would use a little common sense, but that is politicians for you.
Do you know if you walk around GLasgow city centre for 90 mins it is equivilant of smoking around 15 fags, busses/taxis/cars, now they should continue and deal with transport issues now.I bet they wont though.

[Lance]

Hey guys!

First of all, sorry for not being on much in the last few days. I am actually in the UK until this evening and this was something that I have to reply to.

Living in Ireland now, I take it for granted that we can go into pubs/restaurants and have a drink or a meal in a clean surrounding. Since coming to the UK, I've realised how thankful I am of the smoking ban we have in Ireland.

It is disgusting to come into a public place and, despite there being non-smoking areas, have to sit somewhere that feels like a giant ash tray. It makes me sick now and I think once the smoking-ban comes into full effect here the majority of people will be more than happy with it.

[x-heather-x]

I'm loving the smoking ban. People in England dont know what theyre missing!!!!

[sol]

I get annoyed when my Dad smokes in the house too legend, he smokes cigars which arent so bad, but we also have a wood burner and thats always filling the house with smoke which gets on my nerves a lot.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by scooby
Has anyone got a chimney on top of their heads(sorry but if you were meant to smoke you would have)

Ok so then we shouldnt drive because we were not born in cars! I CHOOSE to smoke, I choose to polute my lungs, I dont choose to inflict it on family or friends though.

[Fangz]

Originally posted by Sunny_01

Ok so then we shouldnt drive because we were not born in cars! I CHOOSE to smoke, I choose to polute my lungs, I dont choose to inflict it on family or friends though.

Yeah well, if we were as nature intended us to be we'd be running round butt-naked hunting and gathering and we wouldn't be expected to live past thirty-five or so.

Course, we'd be quite a mess by then.
After all, we weren't born with deodorant clasped in our fists, or toothbrushes shoved in our gobs. Imagine the smell!

[Sunny_01]

[/quote]
Yeah well, if we were as nature intended us to be we'd be running round butt-naked hunting and gathering and we wouldn't be expected to live past thirty-five or so.

Course, we'd be quite a mess by then.
After all, we weren't born with deodorant clasped in our fists, or toothbrushes shoved in our gobs. Imagine the smell! [/quote]

lol Fangz - very well said though

[ThaGazBoi]

Plz dont ban smoking *Gets on kness, Puppy dog eyes*

[Siouxsie]

NO SMOKING ON THIS FORUM (puppy s eyes or not)

[Siouxsie]

Disgusting

[James]

Keith Richards might have to pay of fine for smoking on stage at Hampden Park...

Last Updated: Sunday, 27 August 2006, 12:03 GMT 13:03 UK

Stone rolls into smoking ban row

Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards may have flouted Scotland's smoking ban when he played to thousands of fans at Glasgow's Hampden Park.

The city council confirmed it was investigating reports that he smoked on stage throughout the gig on Friday.

The veteran rocker could face a £50 fine and Hampden Park could also face a £250 penalty if officials prove the venue failed to enforce the ban.

The rock 'n' roll legends are on the UK leg of their A Bigger Bang world tour.

A ban on smoking in all public places came into effect in Scotland on 26 March this year.

Hampden Park had introduced its own smoking ban three months before the nationwide ban was introduced.

At the beginning of this month, actor Mel Smith was warned not to smoke during his performance of Churchill in the play Allegiance at the Edinburgh Fringe festival.

Edinburgh City Council had said that the Assembly Rooms would be shut down if the law was broken.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/5290278.stm

[stoney12]

Bad Idea Big Bro ain't watchin you he's controlling you.Already been banned from one pub for lighting up...in the toilets,this was in England!!

[Diablo]

I don't smoke but now when I walk past a Pub or walk into the train station or whatever I have to pass crowds of smokers and I think I breathe in more passive smoke now than before the ban.

The ban was to stop smoking in public places.. Well the street is the most public place I can think of and it is smokier than ever with crowds of smokers gathered all over the pavement.

They could just have had a rule to have designated area's in pubs etc for smokers.

[sol]

Are there any plans for a smoking ban in England at the moment?

[stoney12]

Yep next May total ban in Pubs,clubs and even private members clubs.Disgraceful.

There is sickingly one exception..The house of commons bar.Just how much does this Government wanna take the pee out of us!!!

[James]

The government is to raise the legal minimum age at which tobacco can be bought in England and Wales from 16 to 18 years from October.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6216523.stm

[Legend]

Originally posted by James
The government is to raise the legal minimum age at which tobacco can be bought in England and Wales from 16 to 18 years from October.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6216523.stm

Oh that's pathetic. The goverment really need to just.. stop. Lol. It's getting beyond a joke now.

[Tanser_Man]

I think its a good idea... every little kid seems to have them in there mouths these days but then again, all of these kids seems to be able to get hold of a bottle of cider aswell...

[Dan_]

It wont make much difference, most will just get others to pay for them like with booze.

[lefty]

Originally posted by Stropz
I think it's an infringement of our civil liberties. Many small businesses will close because of this. I object to the ban. I think it's unreasonable. I object to the government dictating to us about smoking and most of all, I object to Scotland being used to test it out a year before England.

BTW: I don't smoke.

People would object to heorine users shooting up in public, and yet no one would be directly affected by them using their drug of choice. Shouldn't the civil liberties of those who wish to avoid inhaling carcinogeous smoke override those of the smokers?

[Legend]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
I think its a good idea... every little kid seems to have them in there mouths these days but then again, all of these kids seems to be able to get hold of a bottle of cider aswell...

But that's upto them, they should be able to have a choice of whether they want to smoke or not and the government shouldn't introduce all this crap to try and stop young people smoking when it's just going to make people worse, all these 'kids' will cause trouble outside shops now if they're not getting cigs.

[Aflamo]

Well I'm from Ireland and the Smoking Ban that was imposed a couple of years ago (similar to your's) has been a great success.

[lily.]

Originally posted by lefty

People would object to heorine users shooting up in public, and yet no one would be directly affected by them using their drug of choice. Shouldn't the civil liberties of those who wish to avoid inhaling carcinogeous smoke override those of the smokers?

Heroin users do shoot up in public. And, now smokers stand on every corner, outside shops/pubs/restaurants. I still have to breath in their smoke. So, has it actually solved anything?

[lefty]

Originally posted by Stropznow smokers stand on every corner, outside shops/pubs/restaurants. I still have to breath in their smoke. So, has it actually solved anything?

When I first started working, I used to have to breathe smoke in the staffroom - or not go to he staffroom. That's no longer the case, and I'm happy about that. (It helped me give up smoking, for one thing.)

I still have to have it all over my clothes and in my lungs, whether I like it or not, if I want to go to the pub.

When I was in Ireland last year, I didn't come home stinking of smoke when I'd been out for a drink, even though there were people smoking outside as I entered and left the pub.

Which was nice.