[Callum]

It's an awful drug. After watching a drama on BBC last week 'Five Daughters' - most of the girls were heavy heroin users, it's been playing on my mind all week. I think it's the worst drug personally, I would hate to be addicted to it. But I know that a lot of people are, it's not an uncommon thing.

I really don't understand the concept of it neither. All I know is that it's injected into the body. Is there any other ways to take heroin apart from injecting and how do you buy heroin? It confuses me, with cocaine and some other drugs - I know it's given as a white powder form - which heroin isn't.

Not a nice topic I know but I was reading on a news website the other day that heroin users are increasing in the UK which is a sad fact. Bit of a alarming question but has anyone on here ever took or been addicted to heroin or know anyone who has been?

[MrGaryy]

OMG how ironic, my drama coach was telling me about the same show haha!

[Kerry]

I think you can smoke it too. Like cocaine. Thankfully my knowledge is limited.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jaye

I think you can smoke it too. Like cocaine. Thankfully my knowledge is limited.

Safe to say I never knew that. I find it weird myself how the exact same thing can be smoked but also injected into the body.

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Callum

Safe to say I never knew that. I find it weird myself how the exact same thing can be smoked but also injected into the body.

Liquid form. In foil. Up a pipe. Could be totally wrong mind. I watch loads of those fly on the wall cop shows though and they always assosciate that (foil and pipes) with A class drugs and usually say heroin

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jaye

Liquid form. In foil. Up a pipe. Could be totally wrong mind. I watch loads of those fly on the wall cop shows though and they always assosciate that (foil and pipes) with A class drugs and usually say heroin

I've watched crime programmes before too and heroin has always been shown with the foil like you said. I don't understand that. Does the foil do something to the heroin?

[Smithy]

I thought (although Im probably wrong) you heated the solid form until it became liquid then injected it

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by Callum

I've watched crime programmes before too and heroin has always been shown with the foil like you said. I don't understand that. Does the foil do something to the heroin?

It gets burned off somehow and they 'smoke' the 'smoke'. Inhale it. I think they burn if off in spoons too.

LOL I have no real idea I'm afraid

Might be worth a Google.

[InOne]

People often start with smoking it 'Chasing the dragon' then for a bigger hit go to injecting. If you carry on with heavy use you will probably come addicted in about 6 months, and basically once you're hooked you're fucked. Although methadone is a lot harder to come off than heroin.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

People often start with smoking it 'Chasing the dragon' then for a bigger hit go to injecting. If you carry on with heavy use you will probably come addicted in about 6 months, and basically once you're hooked you're fucked. Although methadone is a lot harder to come off than heroin.

Isn't that used as a replacement drug for users who have a heroin addiction?

Yeah the spoon thing confuses me as well.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

Isn't that used as a replacement drug for users who have a heroin addiction?

Yeah the spoon thing confuses me as well.

Yeah it is, but it's a lot harder to come of, it's kinda weird, people will often dabble with methadone and heroin for years. Like if they can't get the meth, they'd have to go get a score cos they'd be in agony. And the spoon thing is where you head it up to make it liquid so you can put it in the needle to shoot up. Smoking it chills you out, but some people need more and straight into the vein is an instant hit.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah it is, but it's a lot harder to come of, it's kinda weird, people will often dabble with methadone and heroin for years. Like if they can't get the meth, they'd have to go get a score cos they'd be in agony. And the spoon thing is where you head it up to make it liquid so you can put it in the needle to shoot up. Smoking it chills you out, but some people need more and straight into the vein is an instant hit.

So heroin is a solid substance originally and it's turned into a liquid for those who want to inject? Wow, didn't know that.

Yeah I read smoking it does less damage for you or something but a lot choose to inject as get more from it.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

So heroin is a solid substance originally and it's turned into a liquid for those who want to inject? Wow, didn't know that.

Yeah I read smoking it does less damage for you or something but a lot choose to inject as get more from it.

It's not just chavs and that who are addicts either. Chinese opium houses used to be for the upper classes. People from all walks of life become addicts.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

It's not just chavs and that who are addicts either. Chinese opium houses used to be for the upper classes. People from all walks of life become addicts.

That's sad. Is it like one of the most powerful drugs then? That you can get a real good kick from taking?

No offense intended but how do you know all of this - have you been involved with heroin yourself?

[Jessica.]

It looks like a brownish powder in one of its forms, there is also black tar heroin, you heat it and it melts into a liquid, you then pour it into a syringe and inject it. Also you can put it on a spoon/tinfoil and put a flame under it, inhale the smoke as in smoking. It smells kinda spicy.

Horrible drug.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

That's sad. Is it like one of the most powerful drugs then? That you can get a real good kick from taking?

No offense intended but how do you know all of this - have you been involved with heroin yourself?

No lol I've watched loads of docs about heroin, heroin addicts, really good, but really hard hitting sort of thing. I like to educate myself and not just think of them as 'Smack Heads'. And no, i've never done it lol

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

No lol I've watched loads of docs about heroin, heroin addicts, really good, but really hard hitting sort of thing. I like to educate myself and not just think of them as 'Smack Heads'. And no, i've never done it lol

Ah right, I've tried to watch some of them but just couldn't. I've always had a phobia of needles and seeing people use them to inject themselves with harmful drugs as a lifestyle - I just couldn't stomach it.

I do feel for some users though who have got involved through falling in with wrong crowd etc. because they didn't choose that lifestyle. There needs to be more support for users in my opinion.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It looks like a brownish powder in one of its forms, there is also black tar heroin, you heat it and it melts into a liquid, you then pour it into a syringe and inject it. Also you can put it on a spoon/tinfoil and put a flame under it, inhale the smoke as in smoking. It smells kinda spicy.

Horrible drug.

Oh sounds awful - I take it you've been involved with heroin yourself then?

[Jessica.]

btw I'm not a druggy, wouldn't touch the stuff.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Callum

Ah right, I've tried to watch some of them but just couldn't. I've always had a phobia of needles and seeing people use them to inject themselves with harmful drugs as a lifestyle - I just couldn't stomach it.

I do feel for some users though who have got involved through falling in with wrong crowd etc. because they didn't choose that lifestyle. There needs to be more support for users in my opinion.

Indeed, once people hit rock bottom, it's hard to come back.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Callum

Oh sounds awful - I take it you've been involved with heroin yourself then?

No I just live in a really bad area. Lots of drugs and gang crime.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

No I just live in a really bad area. Lots of drugs and gang crime.

Oh right I see, that is sad. Do you plan on moving in the future then?

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Callum

Oh right I see, that is sad. Do you plan on moving in the future then?

Ya hopefully
I suppose growing up here has educated me really. I wouldn't even touch a glass of alcohol or smoke a fag.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by InOne

Indeed, once people hit rock bottom, it's hard to come back.

I can't imagine what's it like for them. There's probably hundreds out there right now living a seemingly normal lifestyle who are addicted to heroin.

Like I said, more support needs to be provided. A lot of drug users tend to be involved with crime and prostitution as well which is even more sad. The key to less crime although of course not entirely is to sort out Britain's ever growing drug problem.

But saying that at least we don't have the problem of prescription drugs addiction over here. In the States, it's always been a big thing. It still does happen here but to a much less extent.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Ya hopefully
I suppose growing up here has educated me really. I wouldn't even touch a glass of alcohol or smoke a fag.

That is so good to hear - I've never wanted to smoke ever in my life, haven't had the problem of passive smoking neither as not many people smoke where I live or if they do it's all done behind closed doors. Thankfully, nobody in my family who I see reguarly smoke.

But to be from an area where lots of people smoke/drink etc. and not want to do both because of it - that is so much more of an achievement.