[King Gizzard]

So Ben, Dave, Mario etc arent allowed to bitch (e.g when Nathan told Dave)

But Shabby and co are allowed? They all need to take a long hard look at themselves before judging others. Lol

[bansheewails]

Personally I think they all bitch, and this year all of the men are worse than the women for a change.. But because humans are different and watch people in different ways, we all pick up conversations differently. Therefore what one person sees as a bitchy comment another sees as a joke.

I think they are all as bad as each other, but oblivious to their own bitchiness, which makes it hilarious to watch!

[King Gizzard]

Just think about it when other stuff occurs

Would any of them gave a **** if Shabby had done the exact same thing? Josie? Govan? I think not

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Nate

So Ben, Dave, Mario etc arent allowed to bitch (e.g when Nathan told Dave)

But Shabby and co are allowed? They all need to take a long hard look at themselves before judging others. Lol

[Cristina]

most people (yeah you and me even) are hypocrites, such is life. Doesn't mean we have to like when others do though

[vesavius]

I would have the same stance on any HM that behaved the way Ben has... If Shabby had nommed Ife for instance while pretending to be her friend I would be posting the same stuff.

Ben supporters are just scrabbling around for rationalisation for his weak cowardly behaviour being held up to the light I think though, even resorting to the kind of deflecting tactic seen in the OP.

[headaball]

Funny when Steve came out and started moaning and Nathan didn't say a peep. Another example of double standards.

[pixee]

I don't even think bitching is the issue he is just getting hung out to try by people. JJ i think initiated the best deflection i've ever seen i still don't understand why no one had a go at those who they were been punished for

[King Gizzard]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I would have the same stance on any HM that behaved the way Ben has... If Shabby had nommed Ife for instance while pretending to be her friend I would be posting the same stuff.

Ben supporters are just scrabbling around for rationalisation for his weak cowardly behaviour being held up to the light I think though, even resorting to the kind of deflecting tactic seen in the OP.

Deflecting tactic or not, it is still very valid, they wouldn't kick up a fuss at all

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Nate

Deflecting tactic or not, it is still very valid, they wouldn't kick up a fuss at all

No, I agree, a lot wouldnt.

I don't post like that though, I just say what I see.

[bbfan1991]

They're all bad as each other.. however on the forums even though Shabby and co bitch quite a bit they fair enough get the most criticism but IMO when Ben and co do it there is some criticism, however I feel that it's ignored because some like the group vs group thing.

[JustSkipIt]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I would have the same stance on any HM that behaved the way Ben has... If Shabby had nommed Ife for instance while pretending to be her friend I would be posting the same stuff.

Ben supporters are just scrabbling around for rationalisation for his weak cowardly behaviour being held up to the light I think though, even resorting to the kind of deflecting tactic seen in the OP.

If nominating Sunshine was such a hideous crime, why wasn't everyone going on about it last week?
We've known about who he nominated all along, why is it only seen as a break of trust now? Would it be because Sunshine was being such a sanctimonious bitch last week we all understood why he voted for her.

Selective memories can sometimes be very short.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by JustSkipIt

If nominating Sunshine was such a hideous crime, why wasn't everyone going on about it last week?

I was.

[Jords]

I am more Team Ben, however I find the double standards the other way around, with Ben being allowed to bitch but Shabby and co. not. He is not as harsh and doesnt do it as much, but its on the increase.

[Bonbons81]

It's happened loads of times where hms have voted at the beginning of a bb series for someone they then end up considering a good mate in the house... They had only been in there a week!!

Nobodys scrabbling around at all, it always gets turned back around on Ben coz he's an easy target and is obv no good at arguing. None of what happened was his fault but it ended up feeling like it was once they all got to twisting... JJ just deflecting from the fact he'd been caught out talking about noms! Also scatty has a cheek wanting to find out who's fault it was for the hot water goin off after it's her fault they have no food!! Why didn't anyone kick off on her?! Why are they so afraid of the scheming foulmouthed cretin anyway?!

Not quite sure why she's worried bout the water anway, her gob looks as if it hasn't seen H2O since she got in there!!

[bansheewails]

i am nearly sure I said somewhere, even Ben nominated Sunshine! But thats because I was happy she was up!

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

i am nearly sure I said somewhere, even Ben nominated Sunshine! But thats because I was happy she was up!

I don't see why Ben has to justify himself when some of them nominated Sunshine that week too.

[bansheewails]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

I don't see why Ben has to justify himself when some of them nominated Sunshine that week too.

Big Brother handed them the pot and the stick and let them stir away. Conflict makes ratings.