[chuff me dizzy]

This is what you said ,you may have forgotten ,i have not
Nauseating on live feed.

Alongside this some controversial comments about how ugly he thinks Asian women are when they are without makeup (which he says they use to make their eyes look big).
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This is implying he is racist ,He DID NOT say anything of the sort ,so therefore you LIED to imply he is racist

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by JTM45

What i find really nauseating is your constant and unfounded Ben hate threads!

They all have their faults but at least Ben is really bloody funny and entertaining as opposed to no marks like Govan and Camholieoelheihoe.

lol @ the irrational cult of ben on this forum.

In 2 weeks time, assuming he dosent go tonight, you will all be pretending you always knew he was a slimey back biting machiavellian snake and that he didnt have you fooled for a second

[starry]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol @ the irrational cult of ben on this forum.

In 2 weeks time, assuming he dosent go tonight, you will all be pretending you always knew he was a slimey back biting machiavellian snake and that he didnt have you fooled for a second

I know lol. It still amazes me that some think Govan is a devil and Ben an angel. I guess it was just first impressions, or physical impressions perhaps. Ben looks like a calm reasonable posh person, Govan to some is looks like Gollum or some animal. This is the level of much of the audience, it's often based on physical impressions and not substance.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by starry

He implied that at least. Made their eyes bigger he said lol. It was a follow up to a story about a girlfriend he had who he said he was shocked how different she looked without makeup on the next day.

Anyway my main point is really the sympathy vote he tries for. That story how as a child he visited somebody and the husband ignored him until he left. He has brought the situation in the house upon himself by his bitching behind people's backs.

That word 'implied' renders your posts biased and not to be believed,but i knew that anyway,how low to try and score points against Ben by being deceitfull,as a few people will believe you,all those things you call him seem to fit you like a glove!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

That word 'implied' renders your posts biased and not to be believed,but i knew that anyway,how low to try and score points against Ben by being deceitfull,as a few people will believe you,all those things you call him seem to fit you like a glove!

Once the word changes to IMPLIED the poster has lost any shred of crediblity they may have had ,as my MUM used to say "A good liars got to have a good memory"what a true saying it is

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by starry

I know lol. It still amazes me that some think Govan is a devil and Ben an angel. I guess it was just first impressions, or physical impressions perhaps. Ben looks like a calm reasonable posh person, Govan to some is looks like Gollum or some animal. This is the level of muc of the audience, it's often based on physical impressions.

I am amazed you can fabricate a lie about a conversation and think you can get away with it,other people watch too.Who are you to say what we think? incidently I have NEVER said Ben was an angel,he has faults we can admit that unlike people who see NO faults in who they support such as Sunshine to JJ going on like a stuck record again today about being nominated,someone needs to shove a sock in her gob.

[starry]

Well anything anyone says is open to interpretation. If someone recorded the stream maybe they can put a video up and then you can say what you want. I did not lie I gave my interpretation of what he said and I believe it was close enough.

[eye sea]

Originally Posted by starry

Nauseating on live feed.

Alongside this some controversial comments about how ugly he thinks Asian women are when they are without makeup (which he says they use to make their eyes look big).

He's not looking for the Asian vote then?

[starry]

When they get outside and they see the game he played in the house he will be less popular than now even. I never said anyone was perfect but you should acknowledge someone playing a bitching game when you see it, rather than having double standards.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by starry

Well anything anyone says is open to interpretation. If someone recorded the stream maybe they can put a video up and then you can say what you want. I did not lie I gave my interpretation of what he said and I believe it was close enough.

That first sentence,Does that include anything Ben says? you interperate it in a derogotary way as you do not like him,it's that simple,but not fair to add a porkie to make him sound bad, ,IF you didn't mean it that way then surely you have a incling of how Ben feels

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by starry

At least I watch live feed. People can interpret it as they want but you have to watch it to have an opinion.

Well I watched it and heres my opinion. LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE. And here is how I interpret what he said. He did not call asian women ugly at all he was saying how some women look so different without make up and how asian women tend to wear a lot of make-up to make their eyes look bigger.
Simple

[starry]

Originally Posted by kazanne

That first sentence,Does that include anything Ben says? you interperate it in a derogotary way as you do not like him,it's that simple,but not fair to add a porkie to make him sound bad, ,IF you didn't mean it that way then surely you have a incling of how Ben feels

Yeh he was talking about makeup and eyes as some mascara was being put on his face by Corin. Before that he was saying (with a chuckle in this voice from what I remember and my interpretation) how a girlfriend shocked him when he saw her without makeup in the morning as she looked like a completely different woman. It didn't exactly sound complimentary to me. I can only give my interpretation.

[Julie10]

He never mentioned the race of the girlfriend he was talking about and he didn't say it nasty he just said what a lot of us say about certain people looking so different when they wear make-up. Some look stunning with it on some look stunning with it off.

He wasn't rude or critical about it he was just stating the obvious and not being horrible IMO.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by starry

Yeh he was talking about makeup and eyes as some mascara was being put on his face by Corin. Before that he was saying (with a chuckle in this voice from what I remember and my interpretation) how a girlfriend shocked him when he saw her without makeup in the morning as she looked like a completely different woman. It didn't exactly sound complimentary to me. I can only give my interpretation.

one word BIASED

[starry]

Originally Posted by Julie10

He never mentioned the race of the girlfriend he was talking about and he didn't say it nasty he just said what a lot of us say about certain people looking so different when they wear make-up. Some look stunning with it on some look stunning with it off.

He wasn't rude or critical about it he was just stating the obvious and not being horrible IMO.

Ok you have a right to your opinion. I know he didn't mention the race of the girlfriend, maybe he implied or said she looked far better with the makeup on? Hard to remember now but that was my interpretation. I think earlier in the series he said he liked women in southern Europe but stopping at Africa. I'm NOT saying he is racist but he does put his foot in at times.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

Well anything anyone says is open to interpretation. If someone recorded the stream maybe they can put a video up and then you can say what you want. I did not lie I gave my interpretation of what he said and I believe it was close enough.

Lets get this right, YOU decided in your own narrow mind that you THOUGHT Ben made a racist remark ,so WE had YOUR interpretation of it ,but you implied it was a FACT ,which is wasnt ,which therefore makes it a lie

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

Ok you have a right to your opinion. I know he didn't mention the race of the girlfriend, maybe he implied or said she looked far better with the makeup on? Hard to remember now but that was my interpretation. I think earlier in the series he said he liked women in southern Europe but stopping at Africa. I'm NOT saying he is racist but he does put his foot in at times.

There is only one person who has "put their foot in it" and that is YOU ,i bet you wish you had thought before you typed now dont you ?

[starry]

I never used the word racist, that was you and other people.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

I never used the word racist, that was you and other people.

YOU (to use your new word) IMPLIED it

[Kazanne]

And STILL no proof of his bitching