[King Gizzard]

I think so. It pisses me off when people do that, its really scraping the barrell

Reasons should be like - i don't get on with them in the house..we argued..whatever but when its just about beliefs, especially when the person doesn't air their beliefs (like Dave with same sex marriage, he never airs them) and they nom him for it, its really, really pathetic

[\PJ/]

is jesus a gay man?

[bansheewails]

But if religion is all he talks about, and it irriates them, its a valid reason. Mario just nominated Corin for not being stimulating. I find that less of a reason.

[ILoveTRW]

well im going to create my own religion which hates black people and no one can say anything about it because its what i believe

now that pathetic

[pixee]

Think we have done this before but good topic.

Well, if you think religion is moronic in the same way Mario thinks Corin is dumb then I guess there is no difference. And if you are gay and someone says you can't have same rights again that might be annoying.

But i don't honestly know but my own opinion is yes. For example if one of the housemates i.e ben doesn't like gay people he could give that as a reason as far as i'm concerned and he would have to deal with the consequences.

And in fairness to Shabby (who i don't like) she made a good point that he is not representative of christians he has essentially made up his own religion.

ps - he did air his views about gay marriage, it is on film.

[Livia]

You cannot have a legally recognised "gay marriage". You can have a civil partnership, which isn't the same thing.

[Lex]

I totally get your point Nate!
I myself am not religious!...In fact 'god-botherers' are a total cause of wonderment and mirth to me!....But to each their own!

However!....If the same 'sensitive easily offended' housemates, used the same excuse that they used to nominate Dave for eviction....to...say... 'A Muslim'!....Then, would big brother allow this as a valid reason??

[bansheewails]

Originally Posted by Lex

I totally get your point Nate!
I myself am not religious!...In fact 'god-botherers' are a total cause of wonderment and mirth to me!....But to each their own!

However!....If the same 'sensitive easily offended' housemates, used the same excuse that they used to nominate Dave for eviction....to...say... 'A Muslim'!....Then, would big brother allow this as a valid reason??

But if all that Muslim said all day 'I am drunk on Mohamad' then nominating him would be valid. There have been other religious people in the BB house, but they had OTHER interesting things to talk about rather than being Drunk on Jesus. Dave is a one trick pony and his horse is lame.

[Beso]

Good comments,

I don't know where I stand on this.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by Livia

You cannot have a legally recognised "gay marriage". You can have a civil partnership, which isn't the same thing.

Exactly. Dave didn't exactly say he was against same sex marriage, he just said he wasn't willing to be a minister for one as he doesn't believe in it himself.. going on to say 'God still loves everyone'.

There are many biblical arguements for/against same sex marriage, but the church has made it clear they do not back it. Hardly surprising a follower is against it. If someone on BB complained about Burkahs, all hell would break loose.

[rusticgal]

Look Dave can believe in whoever he wants.... but who wants to be preached to.If someone wants to learn about God then they will go to church.Who does he think he is forcing his beliefs on others... I am glad John said what he did tonight... At least he had the balls to say what most of the others wanted to but didnt have the guts to.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Look Dave can believe in whoever he wants.... but who wants to be preached to.If someone wants to learn about God then they will go to church.Who does he think he is forcing his beliefs on others... I am glad John said what he did tonight... At least he had the balls to say what most of the others wanted to but didnt have the guts to.

When has dave EVER forced his beliefs? Some asked him if he would be a minister for Mario's wedding and he said he was against same sex marriage. Thats the only religeous comment I have seen him make tbh.

[flamingGalah!]

I think someones beliefs are a perfectly acceptable reason to nominate them if they are the opposite of your beliefs... I'd nominate Dave for his views on gay marriage too...

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

when dave gets high on the lords love is this code for "the bible gets him hard"

are there any erotic parts in the bible? if there are, maybe he reads the same bit each time

[ssjgoku101]

This is a good topic, firstly regarding Shabbys comment about Dave not representing Christianity, how can you say that a single person does represent a religion? This seems like madness, its like judging a car by the driver if you know what I mean. Secondly I don't really think that Dave forces his opinions down anyone's throat the way some people are making it out, HMs tend to bring up a topic regarding his religion to him and when he responds he gets accused of preaching. Back to the post topic though, I think its not fair to nominate someone based on their beliefs up to a point, everyone's got a different tolerance for others beliefs but unless its an extreme belief like all of a certain race should be murdered for example them shouldn't it be acceptable? I think the issue is what people define as extreme is their personal belief and it varies.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

But if all that Muslim said all day 'I am drunk on Mohamad' then nominating him would be valid. There have been other religious people in the BB house, but they had OTHER interesting things to talk about rather than being Drunk on Jesus. Dave is a one trick pony and his horse is lame.

Of course your right bansheewails!....If Dave did ..persistantly grind on about his religious beliefs all the time ....then he would be a fair target!!

But IMO,...He does'nt!....they're just using the religion-pushing and sexual tolerance card to disguise their nervousness of Dave's reading their transparent gameplaying like an open book!!

[Stacey.]

Nope, I didn't even think this was a valid reason.

[Joelle.]

No this is not a valid reason to nominate someone and neither is the fact that someone made you wait a bit for crisps.

[Zippy]

Well he has started spouting his beliefs in the house so it makes them fair game.

Religion should be a private thing IMHO. When you drag it out and make it public on TV then dont cry when its used against you.

And too many religious folk use it to excuse bigoted and narrow minded attitudes.

[Alpertinator]

Well hey come on, each housemate has to nominate two housemates each week. Some housemates sometimes do not want to nominate anyone but they have to, and they have to give a reason. Big Brother can't turn down a nomination. They have to accept it.

[jtalh2003]

Originally Posted by \PJ/

is jesus a gay man?

well if he was around today the star would probably have head lines like "he wears a dress and hangs round with 12 other men"

[King Gizzard]

Not necassarily the Religion thing really, I was on more about his views on same sex marriage, cause I'm pretty sure he hasnt harped on about that, he just told them when he was asked, yet they continue to hold it against him even if he doesn't go on about it

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Nate

Not necassarily the Religion thing really, I was on more about his views on same sex marriage, cause I'm pretty sure he hasnt harped on about that, he just told them when he was asked, yet they continue to hold it against him even if he doesn't go on about it

But for some that equates to prejudiced opinion. For some its a genuinely crucial issue. Especially gay people.

And compared to many reasons that are given its a fairly substantial.

[Chosu]

After telling Steve yesterday that he believes someday god will give him the power to lay his hands on an amputee and their limbs will grow back, I think he pretty much deserves any nominations or backlash thrown his way. Ive seen some pretty wild pentacostals in my day, but he either has mild delusions of granduer or hes acting the whole god thing out. Even people in his own church cant be that ignorant to take him seriously unless its a cult.

[Jessica.]

I agree.