[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Kitty

He warned her though, if you're gonna pour water on someone when they're in bed (which would piss me off a lot more than being thrown in the pool tbh) then you gotta take whats dished out. Not his fault she had a nightie on and flashed her bits! He warned her loads of times and she still went ahead and did it. Now she's making a huge drama again when she was laughing her ass off about it before.

If she had a nightie on - commonsense should have told him to be careful about not exposing her! Doubt he gave it a thought - or would have cared if he had! Fault on both sides - but does he always have to act like a bull in a china shop!

[fingers]

Look at it from JJs point of view, "if I don't throw her in the pool I'm going to come across as a wimp, I can't allow that" lol, typical Macho Aussie thicko.

[starry]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by starry

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I'm not defending every single thing Rodrigo did while he was in BB. What he did outside of the pool incident is irrelevant to this discussion. He started a lot of things in the house, but in the pool incident, he hadn't provoked anyone as far as I remember. That is the difference here. Rodrigo didn't provoke anyone in that situation, Sunshine did. She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female. I think it is BS personally. If you don't want to burn your hand, you don't put your hand on a hot stove. Likewise if you don't want to get dumped in the pool, don't throw water on JJ. End of story. You still have yet to admit that SS could have avoided the entire situation had she not thrown water all over JJ.

[Peter Plunker]

Tough one this. Obviously JJ (even though he's a prat) didn't mean to flash the foof but the fact remains that he did, even if it was by accident. I think some maturity on both their parts is called for.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female.

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

[stoney]

whoops thought this was a Shabby thread
she has been playing the victim all week from nominations thru the hat saga to saying Caoimhe has been using her and leading her on

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Callum

To be fair to her she did ask him to stop and he didn't stop

lol ...to be fair he asked her to stop first and she didn't. You watching the same show?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by vesavius

.......(cue all the posters here with victim complexes rushing to her defense over the evil evil man...)

If we don't agree with you we've all got to be nuts, right?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Livia

If we don't agree with you we've all got to be nuts, right?

Just what I thought - seems like a rather pathetic attempt to prevent people from disagreeing!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

He doesn't play with sunshines's emotions .... she initiates all fooling around with JJ. She needs to come up with something better than dumping water on someone she has the hots for ..... . She has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old and can't work out why everyone doesn't respond positively to her tantrums like her daddy does hehe

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

[Sabrewulf238]

I'm not sure if many woman would be too pleased having their vagina flashed in front of possibly millions of people.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238

I'm not sure if many woman would be too pleased having their vagina flashed in front of possibly millions of people.

Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

[Sabrewulf238]

Originally Posted by ange7

Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

It is possible that she didn't expect him to drag her around the room......which was probably naive considering he likes dragging people about.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

"so gung ho what what!!" ...she knew JJ would man-handle her into the pool. He did it before and even warned her as much this time round. Lol at you for not knowing what SS motives were ...hehe

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238

It is possible that she didn't expect him to drag her around the room......which was probably naive considering he likes dragging people about.

he dragged her towards the pool once before. She was laughing herself stupid then ... this time she forgot she had no underwear on ...lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Crying about how JJ 'made her bleed' and caused her to flash her taco...

This all despite SS having been told what she was going into the pool if she threw that water, and yet choosing to throw it anyhow. Not too bright tbh.

Maybe if she was so worried about her reputation as a doctor she should have considered that before acting like a twat on BB?

At least Borin Corin is talking sense to her in bed.

(cue all the posters here with victim complexes rushing to her defense over the evil evil man...)

And why if shes a "trainee effing Dr" is she wearing nighties that short with the chance of her Muckymary being seen if she bent over,tripped etc ?Keep your knickers on you fake cow

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ange7

he dragged her towards the pool once before. She was laughing herself stupid then ... this time she forgot she had no underwear on ...lol

Oh please !! Rachel got hammered on here for having no knickers on ,PLEASE dont make you Scumshine/Bonnie Langford didnt realise .therefore making her a poor little innocent ,because she DID know she had none on

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ange7

"so gung ho what what!!" ...she knew JJ would man-handle her into the pool. He did it before and even warned her as much this time round. Lol at you for not knowing what SS motives were ...hehe

Lol at you for thinking you know what SS's motives were!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ange7

Then why initiate a wrestle/fight/grope with JJ WHILE wearing no underwear. ;P

Could it have anything to do with ATTENTION/CAMERA time ?you never know she may have a sore throat so couldnt do here 4 hour audition for the touring show "A night with the stars of Hollywood"

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh please !! Rachel got hammered on here for having no knickers on ,PLEASE dont make you Scumshine/Bonnie Langford didnt realise .therefore making her a poor little innocent ,because she DID know she had none on

She had her nightie on - acceptable not to wear knickers then! Rachael just fancied herself - and liked showing herself off! Quite a difference!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I doubt EXTREMELY that anyone is brave or desperate enough to "TOUCH HER UP"Mikey Hughes turned her down so Im damn sure someone with JJ`s looks wont bother ,FFS

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

She had her nightie on - acceptable not to wear knickers then! Rachael just fancied herself - and liked showing herself off! Quite a difference!

if you have got a nighty on that barely covers your ass you do not muck about in it on national tv