[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Nathan was right to say nurses and soldiers should get paid a lot more than they do at the moment, but he was only saying something that 90% of the country agree with including Ben.

He was just saying it to try and gain favour with public.

The MPs argument was like watching an edition of question time filmed in the local pub.

MPs expenses are the problem, not their salary. No expenses for MPs

[Jase]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Was it hell ,preaching to the masses "Fighting for the working man"as soon as he spotted Steve he added soldiers to his list ,fake tw@T

Yh it was a reminder, i dont like him but everything he said was fact

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by pixee

Well ben tried to have a conversation on a subject (in fairness to him he knows it wellish i would assume) and Nathan was on a soap box made from fist pumping and little else.

I think his concerns were valid and ones i share but to berate ben for trying to give him a counter argument and different perspective. Moron.

I didn't mind Nathan till tonight it must just be lack of smoking that has made him a bit snappy

Well Nathan has just taken the headlines from newspapers.Ben is not good at explaining anything.
Fact: there are over 600 MPs, three are facing charges for doing something illegal. Ben was right to say the majority of MPs are honest.
Tony Blair told MPs they could not have a pay rise in 1997 because it would look bad even though the wage was too low for running 2 homes. He said they could use up to £25,000 in claims.
I absolutely do not believe that the majority of people in this country given that advise would not follow his advice.
People working for the BBC claim thousands a year in taxi fares

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jase

Every single word he said about that was true :/

Nathan is a total pleb- his idea of debate is to simply keep talking over the other person and not listen at all. Typical ignorant lowlife reaction by an ignoramus acting as if he has a clue what he's talking about, and not being prepared to hear anyone else's point of view.

All he was doing was grandstanding for the benefit of the viewers now that he can see his grip on the kitchen loosening - slimy devious little turd!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No he doesnt ,Ben is honest unlike Nathan

ohh Chufff, sometimes so right, but sometimes so blind.....

[Shiner]

Personally I'd like to hear more of Nat's revolutionary insights into contemporary politics.

A leading think tank has warned that increasing capital gains tax will result in Government revenues dropping by £2.5 billion. It suggested a rise in CGT to the same levels as income tax, at 40 or even 50 per cent, would lead to such damage to the economy that tax revenues would plummet. More than £7.8 billion in tax revenues came from CGT last year. The drop in revenue would be equivalent to 30,000 additional public or similar cuts, according to a study published by the Adam Smith Institute.

I wonder what Nat's view on the subject is?

[ILoveTRW]

I'm fed up of the peasants of this country thinking they have a right to question why people who have worked hard all there lives are rich.
Nathan is just dirty communist scum.

[Livia]

Ben was trying to explain his point but Nathan has the debating style that recommends you just talk louder than the other person and that will make your argument more valid. Almost everything Nathan said (not including that medical/military/emergency workers should be better rewarded, because I think we would all agree with that) was ridiculous. It's not a fashionable thing to say but some MPs work really hard and are committed to what they do, but some people just focus on the few that overclaim and milk the system because that makes for more saleable newspapers. If Nathan is so disgusted that "ordinary working people", and I'm assuming he is lumping himself into that category, aren't properly represented by their constituency MP, there's nothing stopping him joining the local party of his choice and finding out about standing as a MP himself.

[MaratSafinForever]

Nathan is always full of bull****. 6'4'' and plays Rugby league in his VT. What? You're like 6 foot and you're built like a runner bean.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

Nathan was right to say nurses and soldiers should get paid a lot more than they do at the moment, but he was only saying something that 90% of the country agree with including Ben.

He was just saying it to try and gain favour with public.

The MPs argument was like watching an edition of question time filmed in the local pub.

MPs expenses are the problem, not their salary. No expenses for MPs

Ben knew what he was talking about Nathan looked a thick tw@

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MaratSafinForever

Nathan is always full of bull****. 6'4'' and plays Rugby league in his VT. What? You're like 6 foot and you're built like a runner bean.

He made himself look stupid

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ben was trying to explain his point but Nathan has the debating style that recommends you just talk louder than the other person and that will make your argument more valid.[/snip].

It was a successful tactic that paid off for him the last time he was on Jeremy Kyle.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Shiner

It was a successful tactic that paid off for him the last time he was on Jeremy Kyle.

That is just what it looked like he made himself look stupid by trying to make Ben looked stupid ,idiot

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by Shiner

It was a successful tactic that paid off for him the last time he was on Jeremy Kyle.

jeremy kyle is too high brow for nathan

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

jeremy kyle is too high brow for nathan

And Nathan is too monobrow for BB.