[stonedape]

I'm fine with doves like Ben or hawks like Steve. What I don't care for is chickenhawks.

[skkc16]

Chels has been twisting what ben said on every thread don't listen to her she is full of ****e now I don't know the exact words but I think what ben said was that the war cud have been avoided, something to do with foreign policies ge didn't support hitler at all...he also didn't say Britain shouldn't have fought against the Germans but that maybe we shouldn't want to get involved in wars that aren't ours in the first place

[erichardse10]

Well if Ben said that about Hitler, then no wonder Steve went mad. However I am still going to reserve judgement till I see tonight's show!.

[terryrow]

i am sorry that steve has lost his legs, but if you join the army there is a good chance you will face some danger.
every bb year, when a housemate comes in with a disability they are made automatic favourites, e.g. mikey, pete bennett, why? is there some guilt trip that everone goes on. 'cant nominate him the public will hate me, cant vote for him he has no legs, this is not that kind of competition. stephen hawking would win every year.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Ben speaks and makes a lot of sense that the other HMs can't and fail to understand. Steve's only form of defence is to say "men died for your freedom." what a load of twaddle. Steve is now reverting to the bullying character I always thought he might be.

[James]

I've deleted some posts in this thread. Keep to the topic and don't insult other posters for their opinion. Also no over-the-top criticism of housemates.

[GiRTh]

You're arguing semantics claiming Steve wasn't a war hero cuz he was injured in NI.
It does not matter if you agree or disagree with British occupancy in regions around the world. Steve was injured serving his country and for that alone he deserves respect.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You're arguing semantics claiming Steve wasn't a war hero cuz he was injured in NI.
It does not matter if you agree or disagree with British occupancy in regions around the world. Steve was injured serving his country and for that alone he deserves respect.

Well said!

[bansheewails]

I haven't seen enough of the arguement between Ben and Steve to comment on what either said. I will have to wait until the high lights and hope they show the whole thing and not just selected pieces. I won't hold my breath tho.

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

I haven't seen enough of the arguement between Ben and Steve to comment on what either said. I will have to wait until the high lights and hope they show the whole thing and not just selected pieces. I won't hold my breath tho.

They showed a preview clip on last nights HLs so it will be on. I hope they dont edit it too much.
By all accounts Ben was just questioning the policies involved prior to entering the war and maybe there could of been other ways. Although i disagree with him, i think Steves suggestion(alledged) that only soldiers and politicians can comment on wars, is so so wrong.

[bansheewails]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

They showed a preview clip on last nights HLs so it will be on. I hope they dont edit it too much.
By all accounts Ben was just questioning the policies involved prior to entering the war and maybe there could of been other ways. Although i disagree with him, i think Steves suggestion(alledged) that only soldiers and politicians can comment on wars, is so so wrong.

I can see were Steve is coming from, as soldiers are trained to obey without questioning. Ben casing doubts on his or other army orders could cause Steve upset as he has been injured doing something that HE sees as the right thing. Of course that would be upseting to him, but Ben should have his opinion, even if I sometimes think that he should express himself in a more tactful way. , or even think before opening his giant mouth and jumping in with both feet!

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

I can see were Steve is coming from, as soldiers are trained to obey without questioning. Ben casing doubts on his or other army orders could cause Steve upset as he has been injured doing something that HE sees as the right thing. Of course that would be upseting to him, but Ben should have his opinion, even if I sometimes think that he should express himself in a more tactful way. , or even think before opening his giant mouth and jumping in with both feet!

Ben tactful????

I think it's his foot-in-mouth moments that actually make him funny at times. But he is a pompus twat.

[bansheewails]

Originally Posted by StGeorge

Ben tactful????

I think it's his foot-in-mouth moments that actually make him funny at times. But he is a pompus twat.

I know, Ben and Tact wouldn't usually be mentioned in the same sentence! But as Ben would say , one can hope!

[bigbutchman]

Ben is gay, gay is against god, god created adam and eve, not adam and steve

[Livia]

I can't help liking Ben. For an reasonably educated man he's such a silly ar5e.

[Claymores]

It's on LF - go read DS's WHATM

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

proof please. i bet this is just a another twisted quote from Steve hater.

i don't hate Steve but both he and Nathan are pretty close minded.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

proof please. i bet this is just a another twisted quote from Steve hater.

I don't have a clue how I can give you proof, I dare say plenty of people heard it. I am not a Steve hater, I don't hate anybody in real life let alone some reality show I watch for entertainment.
I don't particularly like Steve, he is far too boorish for me, but I don't stoop to telling fibs.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I don't have a clue how I can give you proof, I dare say plenty of people heard it. I am not a Steve hater, I don't hate anybody in real life let alone some reality show I watch for entertainment.
I don't particularly like Steve, he is far too boorish for me, but I don't stoop to telling fibs.

You do not need to give proof it was advertised last night as being part of todays highlights.

Every time Ben goes up the ratings BB shows him in a row.