[Fuzzylogic]

Take for example the JJ v Josie argument. People seem to be either "JJ is a attention seeking evil *****" or "Josie is a lier and gameplayer."

Nothing is ever that black and white. There is a lot more to this story, and if you just put prejudges and "loyalty" to favorites aside you might enjoy the show more.

I'm just sayin'

[Josy]

Spot on.

[Saph]

We've been watching both of them on HL's and Live feed for a month now and its clear that JJ has some issues.

[bansheewails]

They have both rubbed each other up the wrong way and will probably make up, but BB shouldn't be pushing them into it they should be let decide for themselves.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

It always happen, for example when Mario and Ben fall out, all ben does is bitch about mario, however mario is pictured as worst than hitler.

I dont really care about this tbh, I jsut want Joise to hit someone because this is boring now

[Stacey.]

They have both been at it as much as each other in fairness. Just find Josie incredibly annoying.

[SoFarSoGood282]

You have to watch LF or you miss out on so much. Josie has been the bitch today!
Now she's calling him immature!

[Beastie]

I am not bothered about Josie now...... but JJ is crying saying he wants to leave.. then please darling.. just go......

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

It always happen, for example when Mario and Ben fall out, all ben does is bitch about mario, however mario is pictured as worst than hitler.

I dont really care about this tbh, I jsut want Joise to hit someone because this is boring now

Agree! lol

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood282

You have to watch LF or you miss out on so much. Josie has been the bitch today!
Now she's calling him immature!

Okay yeah she is a bitch then.. but all I am bothered about now is that JJ is the one crying saying he wants to leave.......... whoever does that should just go.. if Josie wanted to leave I would be like then just go then.......

[naranja]

I don't know why people are picking their argument to pieces anyway, it's not the hugest deal. Josie only said she didn't say it because the whole thing was being blown out of proportion and John James was trying to use it as an excuse for going too far. That's all there is to it, John James tries to get a rise and Josie can't be bothered to deal with it anymore. It is so stifling in that house, there is no where else to go- even sitting in the garden everyone can see you, it's better they don't talk to each other for a little while.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

We've been watching both of them on HL's and Live feed for a month now and its clear that JJ has some issues.

Yeah, you're right. Deep psychological issues. I dislike Josie and JJ, but I felt kind of sorry for both of them. It was all so pointless and blown out of all proportion.

[Mr XcX]

I hate both so I can see both sides.

[Beastie]

I can see both sides.. both are bitchy but JJ has come across worse because he has played on the sympathy card too much.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by naranja

I don't know why people are picking their argument to pieces anyway, it's not the hugest deal. Josie only said she didn't say it because the whole thing was being blown out of proportion and John James was trying to use it as an excuse for going too far. That's all there is to it, John James tries to get a rise and Josie can't be bothered to deal with it anymore. It is so stifling in that house, there is no where else to go- even sitting in the garden everyone can see you, it's better they don't talk to each other for a little while.

Agree.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Fuzzylogic

Take for example the JJ v Josie argument. People seem to be either "JJ is a attention seeking evil *****" or "Josie is a lier and gameplayer."

Nothing is ever that black and white. There is a lot more to this story, and if you just put prejudges and "loyalty" to favorites aside you might enjoy the show more.

I'm just sayin'

This row started just after JJ had been talking to his mum via video link and he wasn't allowed to tell anyone about it. He went into the garden and the row escalated the way silly arguments sometimes do, probably because he was feeling a bit homesick and low anyway. Josie also has her insecurities which have been fuelled by the perceived threat of a new girl vying for JJ's attention, and her way of dealing with possible rejection is to go on the attack first.

When you have two such insecure people together they just feed off each other's paranoia and the argument spirals out of control. To the onlooker the reason for the argument might seem inconsequential, but really it was just a catalyst for a whole lot of other sh*t going on inside them.

Just my take on it all. However, its now become really tedious, and if it can't be resolved, better one of them leaves so the other HMs can get some air time as well.