[jojo10]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

First admirable thing he's said to be fair.

Really, he knows how to work the public after watching BB so much in the past, and yes of course he does care about what the public think because he know that they are the 1s who are going to crown the winner. Also he goes on about people being in the house to further their career or are there to win it, so exactly why has he come all the way to the UK if he's not looking for the same thing.

He knows that the girls might fancy him and that us girls are the 1s that vote the most, so he has got a strong possibilty of winning, why else would he come here and onto BB, it's all about the money for every single person that comes onto BB and not just the experience, why else would half of them stay in the house when they are bored senseless or are missing the people on the outside world, again because of the money they could win or make after the show.

Also, the 1s that protest the most about not being concerned about what the public think about them or about winning, for eg, JJ, are the 1s that do really care about all that stuff, so no it's not the first admiral thing that JJ has said so far, he's just clever at playing the public, and knows what we like to hear.

Loving Ben ,Corin, Josie, Mario, Steve, Andrew, Keeley and Rachael.

[snookered]

Quantas.

Asap.

[mike888]

Originally Posted by snookered

Quantas.

Asap.

[Astrid]

He is nothing but a peroxide headed twit and keeps his ar*e booting, bit style.

[Patricia4]

Send the bugger back

[ange7]

another bs thread.
"**** the public" works for me. I don't want hms that suck up to the cameras and who are false and full of it. This crazy idea that because "we" pay them so they ought to kiss our @sses and act fake is a joke. If you want that then support Corin.

[erichardse10]

I think JJ has blown it somehow, truth be told I don't think he ever really stood a chance of winning, he is to unpredictable and tempremental!

[joeysteele]

ange7,Really come on, he is really giving Australians a bad name over here if you admire that then I am sorry for you and your Country,What a visitor to the UK on a publicly interactive and publicly paid for series by them paying to text, call and contribute to the show,should do, is at least repesct that public whose living rooms he is going into every day.
To then say in ANY context f... those people, he doesnt give a f.. for those people is totally out of order and extremely insulting behaviour which begs the point why is he even on it then, would the Australian one not have him on theirs likely because they knew what he was like.Be fair if this was a British guy in Australia saying f... the Aussie public etc, you would be up in arms, he is a vile man and a very nasty tempered,disrespectful and selfish one too with a very foul mouth. OR pray not that this is so but do all Australians act like him???

[ange7]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

ange7,Really come on, he is really giving Australians a bad name over here if you admire that then I am sorry for you and your Country,What a visitor to the UK on a publicly interactive and publicly paid for series by them paying to text, call and contribute to the show,should do, is at least repesct that public whose living rooms he is going into every day.
To then say in ANY context f... those people, he doesnt give a f.. for those people is totally out of order and extremely insulting behaviour which begs the point why is he even on it then, would the Australian one not have him on theirs likely because they knew what he was like.Be fair if this was a British guy in Australia saying f... the Aussie public etc, you would be up in arms, he is a vile man and a very nasty tempered,disrespectful and selfish one too with a very foul mouth. OR pray not that this is so but do all Australians act like him???

You went to some trouble to type this up so your owed a response.
I don't think he's giving Australia a bad name and frankly why would I care? hehe. If he was British and in BB AU and said the same there would be zero response because here in OZ we want hms to be themselves and NOT play to the cameras. You want him to suck up to the audience and be false that's your problem but it will and has resulted in rubbish hms getting in them boring us to death.

He isn't bad tempered. He lost it once with Rach because she openly talked about how she'd love to do the zoo and nutz mags plus she was FULLY into herself. If you like that sort of thing fine but JJ said what he thought.
Bad tempered with Corin? Nah...She started it with "I'm getting angry now!"... he laughed and continued with "are you lovin it". She followed him into the bedroom and lost her mind ( temper?) while he laughed in her face. Clearly Corin was trying to start one with JJ to make JJ look bad so as to save Nathan. Fail.
Bad tempered with SS?. Nah.. he didn't tell her off nor yell...SS went over the top their too.
Bad tempered with Josie? She has digs at him ALL the time behind his back and when Keeley asks "hey Josie make me laugh". Josie starts doing JJ impressions. Later he says "why did you have to say that... how about if I called you 98 chins?". That's the worst he got but Josie turns that into "oh you don't know all the horrible things he said!!!". BS
A lot of BS cliches come out of the mouths of Josie and Ben about JJ and are mindlessly parroted here on tib. Ben "oh he's very argumentative!". JJ while wearing a wig "oh I've got no circulation going to my head". Ben "oh well you've got no brain cells so that wouldn't do any harm!". Ben "Why is it that he keeps picking on me?" It's amazing that he keeps his cool when he gets trolled like that.

[stoney]

of course Mr gameplayer cares what the public think.

thats why he left his trousers on over his cougar pants and his constant anger at "your making me look bad on telly" at his weekly target.

he reminds us far too often that he doesn't care for it to be true

[joeysteele]

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.

"odd comments" which you side stepped. Bring an argument that backs your view.... parotting cliches doesn't cut it nor does "I am really glad I don't live there." This sounds desperate and trolly.... and your personal stance on whether you'd like to come to oz or not isn't that interesting.

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A small part of what was said in the bedroom so what was said can be put in the right context
(Ben & Andy & Keeley in bedroom bitching/moaning about JJ)
ben ' this is a bit wierd for me as i dont really understand what this is all about'
keeley 'its all good benjamin'
ben 'johns going to be a total for the whole weekend he is you can see in the bloody hut thats why i called him unemployed
cos he was having a go at me constantly and im not gonna put up with it'
andy ' do you think he likes you'
ben 'yeah he does like me but he uses me im the only person that really stands up to him anyway'
andy 'I know how you feel keep you chin up you it will be alright'
(john wanders over to where Ben & keeley, & andy are in the bedroom)
ben ' you love this john dont you'
JJ ' the fact that ive got no circulation going into my head no not really'
ben ' you havent got my braincells so that wouldnt do any harm'
ben 'you love the fact that your taking the cronic out of me'
jj 'but benjamin you ask for insults cos you rip them outyou rip out worst insults than what I could ever imagine'
ben ' well thats because ive got more of an imagination..'
JJ ' no its because your ruder'
ben 'im..'
Jj' its not about imagination its just things that I would never dream of saying'
jj ' i dont care.. i dont care about the money i dont care about being on this show i dont care about being unemployedi dont care about those sort of things that you care about'
ben ' i dont care about those things either'
jj ' why did you bring it up?'
ben ' cos you are having a constant go at me and you always do'
jj ' i have to dress like you ben'
ben ' well why is that my fault, i cant explain it you would never understand but you are aggressive towards me and i dont know why'
jj ' you continue to tell me that im stupid that i have no braicells that im thick and now you've just had a pop at
the point taht im unemployed and you had a pop at my family and you hada pop at them whilst i was here and at what i eat
you had a pop at my dietry requirements
ben 'but thats because you dont leave me alone though john#
jj ' but for no reason you pop out these insults after insult after insult for no reason benny and you can't see it'
ben 'but let the public decide on that one'
jj ' the public what public what public what are you talking about ben'
(rachel speaks up trying to make peace between them both)
ben ' no no its nothing but what is...'
jj ' what do you mean let the public decide
jj' nonononono you keep bringing in the public what has the public im sick of you talking about the public I dont care about
the public i dont care about the program its not about the program maybe it is to some of yous but its not about the programme
to me'
rachel 'stop stop stop stop'
jj ' so if you wanna go out there and get your little job in america cos you wanna fake who you are as a person inside here thats your
problem but I dont wanna do that if you bring up about the public one time again i will never ever speak to you as long as I live
jj ' im not on this show for the public or for you or to make ayone else happy i am on the show for enjoyment for myself
not to make the public happy if thats constantly going through your mind which it is as you constantly bring it up
(piss take oice lol) huh.. let the public decide let the public decide
(video cuts to kitchen)
keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)
jj ' ben we have got a massive clash when it comes to team work either you avoid it because i know the way you are but I have got a massive problem with it massive problem..i cant stand it'
ben ' but I no not never like apart from when we have banta and i do maybe say things i shouldnt say but i ever go after you though that is true i never ever go after you'
jj ' the things that i do do not effect the group as far..'
ben (interrupts) ...'but they do'
jj ' as far as eating and showering'
ben (interrupts)..'eating and showering but your anger you change the atmostphere of the whole place like that (clicks fingers) and i
dont have a go at you over that ever'
jj ' i dont give a a flying fffffff what you do for the people outside the house i dont care i care about what youd o for people inside the house right here concerns me'
keeva 'if JJ is gonna say something ignore it laugh about it laugh it off dont be so sensitive abou it i know its difficult'
ben (interupts) ' but he would be sensitive if i needled him all the time and you know he would.. if I constantly followed him...

JJ ' i would just say it to yer face yeah'

[AusFan]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You make me massively glad that I am British ange7 and not Australian and from your rather odd comments I have to say I can see why you like John James so much.
Housemates have to show their true selves, Ben gets pilloried for doing just that,but if you are really telling us that is JJ showing his real self then its a wonder any British person likes him at all,what an odd country Australia must be to encourage such disrespect, lack of decency,such vile tempered personality and a filthy mouth to go with it as to language,I am really glad I don't live there.

I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing. Has it ever occurred to you that some viewers don't support the so called ''good'' housemates but support the HM's who go into the house to just be themselves?

Honestly it amazes me who some people get bent out of shape over something so completely out of context and then come on here with their propaganda trying to influence other people's opinions. And if you want to talk about offending people maybe you should look at yourself with the constant mentioning of JJ being Australian considering everything JJ has said or done has nothing to do with his nationality, i mean like Shabby or Nathen didn't have ''foul mouths''.

End of the day JJ is good for the show and as an Australian I'm proud of the
he way he atleast has gone in there and put himself out there for all to see, it's refreshing because our version of BB had its fair share of ''pot plants'' who added nothing to the show as well.

[Tessier Ashpool]

Originally Posted by AusFan

I'm Australian and I think JJ can be an idiot sometimes but he also has qualities I like about him, the same goes for every HM who has had the balls to show at least some of their real personalities good and bad and not 'fake' their way through showing us nothing.

It doesn't take balls to show your personality in the BB house It is eventually forced out anyway. John is definitely being himself, but would you want to hang around with that broken man in rl?

John's personality is sometimes likeable, but he clearly needs his arguments; he can't help himself. He needs them to blow off steam - release anxiety. Sometimes he attacks those he cares about (mommy Josie) because he can't control it

Mostly, he selects an easy target who he (or a bitching buddy) finds in some way annoying, then tears them apart by repeatedly pointing out their most boringly obvious personal flaws (whilst projecting a few of his own onto them). You can see how animated he becomes -high on his own bullsh-t. Then he walks away cleansed - next day he's like nout happened, the victim walks away feeling crappy for days/weeks. Rinse and repeat.

JJ has let slip a few times that he thinks of himself as some selfless, anti-fame saint come to bring the fame hungry HMs down a peg or two. TBF, its a tried and tested tactic - even Mario hammed it up with Ben a few weeks ago. Normally the HM practicing this tactic will even convince themselves. Of course, once out of the house they will "give in" to the money hats.

Like anyone with a functioning brain believes the media circus that surrounds BB isn't a factor in him (or anyone else) entering BB. Like he is above a few magazine deals or making himself a career .

Who is he to judge them? As Ben rightly pointed out 'the public will decide'.
BB is a popularity pageant for god's sake, and you don't have to be nice or team-spirited to be popular, as JJ and Ben both prove.

Only reason I'm targeting John is because his arguments are so constant that his whiney voice is effing up the show.

[ange7]

Thanks FireTwilight ... just what the doctor ordered. Some facts :P
"keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)"
mahahahah!!!
ben (interrupts)..'but your anger you change the atmosphere of the whole place..."
lol really. Ben starts it off. Ben bitches about JJ all over the shop but because he starts his bitching with "oh a adore JJ but...." ten people think HE is not bring the atmosphere down. Ben has a go because he knows JJ will take the bait. JJ isn't going to take Ben's rudeness despite it giving Ben the opportunity to act like he himself is the victim.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by ange7

Thanks FireTwilight ... just what the doctor ordered. Some facts :P
"keeley ' ben is trying to reach out to john & john cannot see that'
(back to bedroom)"
mahahahah!!!
ben (interrupts)..'but your anger you change the atmosphere of the whole place..."
lol really. Ben starts it off. Ben bitches about JJ all over the shop but because he starts his bitching with "oh a adore JJ but...." ten people think HE is not bring the atmosphere down. Ben has a go because he knows JJ will take the bait. JJ isn't going to take Ben's rudeness despite it giving Ben the opportunity to act like he himself is the victim.

LOL i was sick of the Jj said this j said that threads so I sat through the HL show a few times and typed as much of it as I could lol
yeah the keeley comment ..grrrrrr

ahh yes Ben acted the victim the whole time..all about him.. no apology for Bens comments about JJ.. nothing nadda zip..spineless Barsteward if you ask me... I can't say Im a major fan of JJ but as a person I think he is great

[joeysteele]

I can see why you and JJ would get on like ahouse on fire ange7, its true a lot of what you say but JJ si very devious, he breaks people down by going on and on and on with the same thing until he gets them to carck and say something that annoys him then he goes in like a ferret down a rabbit hole to escalate the unpleasantness, bring the mood of the house down and cause maximum disruption.His anger is a dangerous one because he clouds it with a grin,a sracastic menacing grin.
I could have answered all your odder comments too but earlier in the series he told Josie she had a massive bottom.He loves to reel out the insults but its all to get the response he needs to start up a massive argument.
I will not waste my time on you any more,like JJ you cannot be reasoned with but I can see totally how you like him,you are as bad. NO compromise no real facts just a selective sequence of events.Even when faced with the f... the public issue,UNBELIEVABLE.

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can see why you and JJ would get on like ahouse on fire ange7, its true a lot of what you say but JJ si very devious, he breaks people down by going on and on and on with the same thing until he gets them to carck and say something that annoys him then he goes in like a ferret down a rabbit hole to escalate the unpleasantness, bring the mood of the house down and cause maximum disruption.His anger is a dangerous one because he clouds it with a grin,a sracastic menacing grin.
I could have answered all your odder comments too but earlier in the series he told Josie she had a massive bottom.He loves to reel out the insults but its all to get the response he needs to start up a massive argument.
I will not waste my time on you any more,like JJ you cannot be reasoned with but I can see totally how you like him,you are as bad. NO compromise no real facts just a selective sequence of events.Even when faced with the f... the public issue,UNBELIEVABLE.

JJ didnt go on and on he said what he had to Directly to Ben he didnt do what Ben does and bitch behind his back.. then play the pity me card when confronted...

Any arguement / fallout brings down the house mood but when things need o be said they should be said.. Ben could learn a lot from JJ .. eg. when someone is annoying him talk to them about it not to everyone else BUT them...

LOl how can my post not be reasoned with that was nearly exactly (give or take the odd comment that was unheard on the HL show or odd comment from people not including Ben & JJ) all that was said from the HL show?? lol surely typing was was actually said between the HMs is very factual lol.. doh! How about I post the link to the 4OD show so you can sit there and type out what was said too ..

even when faced with what was actually said Ben can do no wrong can he lol..doh!

[stoney]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

JJ didnt go on and on he said what he had to Directly to Ben he didnt do what Ben does and bitch behind his back.. then play the pity me card when confronted...

Any arguement / fallout brings down the house mood but when things need o be said they should be said.. Ben could learn a lot from JJ .. eg. when someone is annoying him talk to them about it not to everyone else BUT them...

LOl how can my post not be reasoned with that was nearly exactly (give or take the odd comment that was unheard on the HL show or odd comment from people not including Ben & JJ) all that was said from the HL show?? lol surely typing was was actually said between the HMs is very factual lol.. doh! How about I post the link to the 4OD show so you can sit there and type out what was said too ..

even when faced with what was actually said Ben can do no wrong can he lol..doh!

lol...what you forgot to add is that the "argument" lasted over an hour and JJ just repeated the same "points" again and again and again and again and again and again at various different levels of aggression and hate, especially his feck the public cr@p
JJ was not talking to Ben he was ranting towards him and telling us, the GBP who he really doesnt care about (my @rse), why he was the better man in his opinion than ben. He was not willing to let ben speak a lot of the time and simply ranted over him

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Originally Posted by stoney

lol...what you forgot to add is that the "argument" lasted over an hour and JJ just repeated the same "points" again and again and again and again and again and again at various different levels of aggression and hate, especially his feck the public cr@p
JJ was not talking to Ben he was ranting towards him and telling us, the GBP who he really doesnt care about (my @rse), why he was the better man in his opinion than ben. He was not willing to let ben speak a lot of the time and simply ranted over him

see post 44# I did say how long it went on for lol
Ben spoke.. looked away did his hair.. make no attempt to apologise or listen just kept the pity me 'why's everybody always picking on me' act up.. pathetic...

JJ the next day apologised and Ben.. continued to bitch about JJ for most of the day instead of talking things out with him.

TBH Jj is the better man he said to the face of the person he had a problem with told it like it is.. (Ben's way he would just Bitch in the nest bedroom seating area..garden for the rest of the show.. good roll model lol NOT lol) things got heated and JJ realised that and apologised.

[joeysteele]

firetwilight conveniently leaves out the I dont give a f ... for the public, f... the public.
How strange to do that,the most interesting comment in it is Keeley saying that Ben is actually reaching out to John James but JJ cant see it.
EXACTLY thats how JJ gets in to so much bother,is his problem that he is terrified of ever being really close to anyone???
Also firetwilight includes that JJ doesnt care about the show, well then leave JJ.He 's sat in the diary room at least twice now saying he wanted to leave, the big drama when BB ahd to bring Josie in the diary room, he was going then like JEKYLL AND HYDE he got okay again, IF he doesnt care about the show, doesnt care about the public and is sick of not just Ben beacuse he has argued with over half the house,also its stated he said he didnt care about the money, then for goodness sake WHAT is he evem on the show for, why has he come all those miles to be on it,.If all thats true,LEAVE or for goodness sake BB send him out and end his misery once and for all.
What a pathetic excuse for a man he is!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

firetwilight conveniently leaves out the I dont give a f ... for the public, f... the public.
How strange to do that,the most interesting comment in it is Keeley saying that Ben is actually reaching out to John James but JJ cant see it.
EXACTLY thats how JJ gets in to so much bother,is his problem that he is terrified of ever being really close to anyone???
Also firetwilight includes that JJ doesnt care about the show, well then leave JJ.He 's sat in the diary room at least twice now saying he wanted to leave, the big drama when BB ahd to bring Josie in the diary room, he was going then like JEKYLL AND HYDE he got okay again, IF he doesnt care about the show, doesnt care about the public and is sick of not just Ben beacuse he has argued with over half the house,also its stated he said he didnt care about the money, then for goodness sake WHAT is he evem on the show for, why has he come all those miles to be on it,.If all thats true,LEAVE or for goodness sake BB send him out and end his misery once and for all.
What a pathetic excuse for a man he is!!!!!!!!!!!

whaaaat you grizzling about now? the arguement went on for almost an hour an a half if not longer that was the start of what was on the HL show.. Im not typing it all I quoted what I needed to in regards to putting some persective as to why JJ said that.

Ben brings up the public JJ explained why he was mad at Ben making that comment.. what was needed in this thread was the 2nd side the story.. how it all kicked off...and why he said what he did.. rather than just everyone thinking that JJ hates the public..

when Jj said about the show (not caring) what he means he is in the house to have fun he wont play up or be someone he is not just for the show/ viewing public

Ben has said he wanted to leave also.. most of the HMs have lol

Your very angry arent you lol its a show relax..

[stoney]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

when Jj said about the show (not caring) what he means he is in the house to have fun he wont play up or be someone he is not just for the show/ viewing public


Your very angry arent you lol its a show relax..

but that is one of JJ's most hypocritical moments. Its ok for him to be himself in the house but if ben doesn't change JJ is going to , cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of attacking him over it whenever he wanted to (I know he means verbally tho)

but JJ only wants fun that he wants and brings all the rest down with his nasty aggression, selfishness and arguments

EDIT it all kicked off because JJ was annoyed that benny boy was centre story and not him. His face was tripping him from the moment Ben went to the diary room until he manage to get his rant in and start the fight over something he had LAUGHED about with ben uand the rest in the snug ( the unemployed jibe altho ben , like us knows that JJ aint unemployed( JJ actually said he wastoo rich to be or something in direct response at the time in the snug) he is living off daddies inheritance

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Originally Posted by stoney

but that is one of JJ's most hypocritical moments. Its ok for him to be himself in the house but if ben doesn't change JJ is going to , cant remember exactly what he said but it was something along the lines of attacking him over it whenever he wanted to (I know he means verbally tho)

but JJ only wants fun that he wants and brings all the rest down with his nasty aggression, selfishness and arguments

selfish?? lol oh yes the KING OF SELFISH *DRUMROLL* Ben tadaaa