[rosieb]

Well said MrWong!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Those are Josie's words and we all know what a little fibber she can be.

We have the reaction of the hm's when she spread those words around the house though. Not one of convo's i saw did the hm say they saw the smirks Josie saw or heard the mutterings. Only the self confessed insecure, paranoid mess saw/heard these things.

Then we have the footage. I didn't see/hear any of this smirking/muttering.

Caoimhe got rat arsed, made a t!t of herself, literally and has been paying for it ever since. She was mortified. Repeatedly said sorry and there wasn't a hint of 'flirting' from that point and she tried to keep her distance.

That wasn't good enough for our Josie, she continued her bitchy campaign against Caoimhe, involved all the housemates and didn't let up until she'd isolated the girl. Apart from JJ that it but she gave it a good go in trying to turn him against her too.

All this over her imaginary boyfriend.

This! Well reasoned, non-hysterical, unbiased view of the situation!

[xbrokenwingsx]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Those are Josie's words and we all know what a little fibber she can be.

We have the reaction of the hm's when she spread those words around the house though. Not one of convo's i saw did the hm say they saw the smirks Josie saw or heard the mutterings. Only the self confessed insecure, paranoid mess saw/heard these things.

Then we have the footage. I didn't see/hear any of this smirking/muttering.

Caoimhe got rat arsed, made a t!t of herself, literally and has been paying for it ever since. She was mortified. Repeatedly said sorry and there wasn't a hint of 'flirting' from that point and she tried to keep her distance.

That wasn't good enough for our Josie, she continued her bitchy campaign against Caoimhe, involved all the housemates and didn't let up until she'd isolated the girl. Apart from JJ that it but she gave it a good go in trying to turn him against her too.

All this over her imaginary boyfriend.

Totally agree! I hated the way they isolated her tbh i hate all the housemates that did this! The only one that didnt do this was Of course JJ and Mario!

[alc09]

Glad she has gone, a horrible person and very poor HM.

I hope she is on the first flight back to Ireland.

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I know this will fall on deaf ears, I know the red mist has descended for some and I know the same haters are still haters. I can tell this from looking at the board.

Still, I will put this out there in the interests of shining a light.

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend' who knew she has feelings for a bloke made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.


Good riddance I say.

Excellent post and one that I agree with totally. Well done!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Then we have the footage. I didn't see/hear any of this smirking/muttering.

Caoimhe got rat arsed, made a t!t of herself, literally

'Caoimhe got rat arsed'..?? On 2 glasses of bucks fizz? lmao no, she knew exactly what she was doing all the time, there has been no time in that house any of time have been in the slightest out of control drunk. 'Rat arsed'... lmao!! I also cannot get how anyone could have missed Keeva's smirks! You are just choosing to not see them I think, or you see them and just find it easy to deny because admitting them would put a hole in your boat!

I am sooooo glad that backstabbing cow has gone!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

'Caoimhe got rat arsed'..?? On 2 glasses of bucks fizz? lmao no, she knew exactly what she was doing all the time, there has been no time in that house any of time have been in the slightest out of control drunk. 'Rat arsed'... lmao

I also cannot get how anyone could have missed Keeva's smirks! You are just choosing to not see them I think, or you see them and just find it easy to deny because admitting them would put a hole in your boat!

I am sooooo glad that backstabbing cow has gone!

haha I know... rat arsed, so funny and so untrue and such a pitiful excuse to try and put up there.

Anyhow even if she was booze is a revealer not a creator, it would just mean that the Caoimhe we saw was the real Caoimhe, while the one we saw fake apologising sober wasnt.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

'Caoimhe got rat arsed'..?? On 2 glasses of bucks fizz? lmao no, she knew exactly what she was doing all the time, there has been no time in that house any of time have been in the slightest out of control drunk. 'Rat arsed'... lmao

I also cannot get how anyone could have missed Keeva's smirks! You are just choosing to not see them I think, or you see them and just find it easy to deny because admitting them would put a hole in your boat!

I am sooooo glad that backstabbing cow has gone!

Please link some footage to these smirks/mutterins, it's only come about since Josie's paranoid rants. Or you can link to previous posts you've made, before Josie made these observations, complaining about these smirks and mutterings.

The night Caoimhe made an arse of herself she'd been drinking Bucks Fizz during a late lunch and Gin and Tonic based cocktails during Bens Soiree task. She was knocking those back because a few of the hm's didn't indulge for fear of showing themselves up.

Luckily for us Caoimhe wasn't quite so guarded and a great night of live feed ensued.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by rosieb

Well said MrWong!

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

This! Well reasoned, non-hysterical, unbiased view of the situation!

Originally Posted by xbrokenwingsx

Totally agree! I hated the way they isolated her tbh i hate all the housemates that did this! The only one that didnt do this was Of course JJ and Mario!

Thanks guys. I do try.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Please link some footage to these smirks/mutterins

The night Caoimhe made an arse of herself she'd been drinking Bucks Fizz during a late lunch and Gin and Tonic based cocktails.

Link me the footage of her drinking all those drinks, seeing as you are so hot on linked evidence.

If you demand it, you better be prepared to provide it.



Like I say though, even if she was drunk booze is a revealer not a creator, it would just mean that the Caoimhe we saw was the real Caoimhe, while the one we saw fake apologising when sober wasnt.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Thanks guys. I do try.

'try' is the word

[MrBlack]

Originally Posted by Zippy

laughable how anybody thinks that she really left due to 1 or 2 uncomfortable days with Josie! She's been planning on leaving since she backstabbed Shabby.

This was just the perfect excuse.

Bye bitch.

Who are going to turn your adolescent hate towards next..?

[WOMBAI]

Talking of fake apologies - yet another of Josie's bad habits!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

haha I know... rat arsed, so funny and so untrue and such a pitiful excuse to try and put up there.

Anyhow even if she was booze is a revealer not a creator, it would just mean that the Caoimhe we saw was the real Caoimhe, while the one we saw fake apologising sober wasnt.

It is completely true, not my fault you weren't paying attention.

I don't need to make sh!t up either.

The fake apologies came from Josie. Didn't you see last nights show? Where Josie said she felt soooo bad about her own behaviour, apologised then carried on a spiteful vendetta in an attempt to isolate the girl.

Justified? Nah, i don't think so

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

'try' is the word

Better than throwing out wild paranoid theories of puppet accounts i suppose.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

It is completely true, not my fault you weren't paying attention.

Where are your links to footage Wong? You were pretty hot on demanding them from others, where are yours as proof?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Where are your links to footage Wong? You were pretty hot on demanding them from others, where are yours as proof?

Luckily for Caoimhe, she was in such a state BB didn't link any footage to the official site, even though it's what started this whole thing off.

You can do things like check the WHATM thread at the time with FM's commenting at Caoimhe 'knockin em back' though. Or you can feign ignorance to keep up the pretence that she wasn't pissed.

I wonder if Tamtams off checking her posts about Caoimhe smirking/muttering, pre Josie's fairy tale ranting.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Luckily for Caoimhe, she was in such a state BB didn't link any footage to the official site, even though it's what started this whole thing off.

oh right, so you can't.

yet you constantly demand others do


She was tipsy at best, most of them were, but never never 'out of control I don't know wtf I am doing' pissed. She was 100% aware of her actions and is 100% accountable for them.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

This! Well reasoned, non-hysterical, unbiased view of the situation!

Unbiased?

ROTFLMFAO

[Beso]

end of the day...keeva is gone and josies still a ****.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Unbiased?

ROTFLMFAO

Indeed

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by vesavius

oh right, so you can't.

yet you constantly demand others do


She was tipsy at best, most of them were, but never never 'out of control I don't know wtf I am doing' pissed. She was 100% aware of her actions and is 100% accountable for them.

He asked you first - and I see you still haven't produced any! Sigh!

[cell]

Her leaving won't change much in the house or in the show since its just edited for weeks at a time around one storey plot. There was the Shabby/Keeva show which died, and I now it's all about JJJ. I would love the editing to go back to how it was before where everyone would have at least some portion of the highlight episodes, and the house mates were kept more entertained so they weren't horribly stressed and resulting to stereotypical behaviours like animals in a zoo.

It seems like BB is trying to create drama by keeping them under stimulated, but it's just causing them to have panic attacks, over eat, drop weight, pace, sleep, and become depressed. Which leads to people leaving since they don't want to tolerate the mental and physical problems problems that come with prolonged stress and boredom.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by cell

Her leaving won't change much in the house or in the show since its just edited for weeks at a time around one storey plot. There was the Shabby/Keeva show which died, and I now it's all about JJJ. I would love the editing to go back to how it was before where everyone would have at least some portion of the highlight episodes, and the house mates were kept more entertained so they weren't horribly stressed and resulting to stereotypical behaviours like animals in a zoo.

It seems like BB is trying to create drama by keeping them under stimulated, but it's just causing them to have panic attacks, over eat, drop weight, pace, sleep, and become depressed. Which leads to people leaving since they don't want to tolerate the mental and physical problems problems that come with prolonged stress and boredom.

Nice post, I agree.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Unbiased?

ROTFLMFAO

I guess no one on here is completely unbiased - but that post came across as one of the more reasonable posts - it seemed a lot less biased than many on here!