[pinkmichk]

Originally Posted by Chewy

that'd freak me out! and LOL at the police xD

from what i read a lot of them collect those police stop/search forms almost like a badge of honour

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

i want to explore this 1 bar the pic 16 part
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=49876

I know! Imagine being there at night with just torches and seeing that.. I don't think my ticker would hold out to be honest!

[pinkmichk]

Originally Posted by happyland

I know! Imagine being there at night with just torches and seeing that.. I don't think my ticker would hold out to be honest!

its the 1 i were talking bout even in daytime i would be crapping myself if i saw that

[Miss Ivy Balls]

OMFG. Squelssssssssssssssssssssss.

I have a picture of a lady in quarantine back in the day.

[Miss Ivy Balls]

OMFG. Squelssssssssssssssssssssss.

I have a picture of a lady in quarantine back in the day.

[Miss Ivy Balls]

Some other pictures of the same place of the same photo I last posted:

Ohhhhh lordyyyy. Take a look at some of these pictures. I especially like this first one as it has a nice view:



As we near the end of the winter of the Swine Flu we are reminded of another time in history, before vaccines and antibiotics, when the rapid spread of disease struck fear in the hearts of the population of New York.


In the summer of 1906, New York banker Charles Henry Warren took his family on vacation to Oyster Bay Long Island. He rented a summer home from George Thompson and his wife and looked forward to rest and relaxation in one of the most beautiful vacation spots in America. Being quite well of the family could afford to hire their own private cook for the trip and Warren and his wife hired Mary Mallon a 37 year old Irish domestic who had emigrated to the States when she was about fifteen.

On August 27, one of the Warren's daughters became ill with typhoid fever. Soon, Mrs. Warren and two maids became ill; followed by the gardener and another Warren daughter. In total, six of the eleven people in the house came down with typhoid.

Since the common way typhoid spread was through water or food sources, the owners of the home feared they would not be able to rent the property again without first discovering the source of the outbreak. The Thompsons first hired investigators to find the cause, but they were unsuccessful.

Then the Thompsons hired George Soper, a civil engineer with experience in typhoid fever outbreaks. It was Soper who believed the recently hired cook, Mary Mallon, was the cause. Mallon had left the Warren's approximately three weeks after the outbreak. Soper began to research her employment history for more clues.

Soper was able to trace Mallon's employment history back to 1900. He found that typhoid outbreaks had followed Mallon from job to job. From 1900 to 1907, Soper found that Mallon had worked at seven jobs in which 22 people had become ill, including one young girl who died, with typhoid fever shortly after Mallon had come to work for them.


Marry Mallon in North Brother Hospital Bed
Wikimedia Commons


Convinced that Mary was the source of these typhoid cases he approached her to see if she would co-operate and allow for the analysis of a stool specimen. Insulted and probably frightened, Mary refused to co-operate, twice threatening Soper with a knife. Eventually, New York Public Health Officials had to "capture" Mary and take her, against her will, to Willard Parker Hospital.

Tests at the hospital revealed Mary to be the first healthy carrier of typhoid fever in the United States. Upon discovering this the health department transferred Mallon to an isolated cottage (part of the Riverside Hospital) on North Brother Island (in the East River near the Bronx).

Mary was taken against her will and essentially imprisoned because she was a carrier of a disease that could kill others who came into contact with the food she was preparing. The incident created a myriad of moral and ethical questions for the health care professionals in the city at the time. There was a charter in place allowing for the quarantine of sick people but to imprison someone who was healthy seemed wrong.

In 1909, after having been isolated for two years on North Brother Island, Mallon sued the health department. But the judge in the case ruled in favor of the health officials and Mallon, now popularly known as "Typhoid Mary," "was remanded to the custody of the Board of Health of the City of New York." Mallon went back to the isolated cottage on North Brother Island with little hope of being released.

In February of 1910, a new health commissioner decided that Mallon could go free as long as she agreed never to work as a cook again. Anxious to regain her freedom, Mallon accepted the conditions. On February 19, 1910, Mary Mallon signed an affidavit stating that she "is prepared to change her occupation (that of cook), and will give assurance that she will upon her release take such hygienic precautions as will protect those with whom she comes in contact, from infection." She was let free.

In early 1915, twenty-five people became ill with typhoid at the Sloane maternity hospital. When workers noticed a resemblance of a cook, Mary Brown, to earlier photos of Typhoid Mary, it was found that Mary had taken a job as a cook at the hospital breaking her agreement with the Public Health Department.

Mallon was again sent to North Brother Island to live in the same isolated cottage that she had inhabited during her last confinement. For twenty-three more years, Mary Mallon remained imprisoned on the island. She would remain at North Brother until her death from complications of a stroke in 1938. An autopsy showed she still was still a carrier at the time of her death.

[Miss Ivy Balls]

Some other pictures of the same place of the same photo I last posted:

Ohhhhh lordyyyy. Take a look at some of these pictures. I especially like this first one as it has a nice view:



As we near the end of the winter of the Swine Flu we are reminded of another time in history, before vaccines and antibiotics, when the rapid spread of disease struck fear in the hearts of the population of New York.


In the summer of 1906, New York banker Charles Henry Warren took his family on vacation to Oyster Bay Long Island. He rented a summer home from George Thompson and his wife and looked forward to rest and relaxation in one of the most beautiful vacation spots in America. Being quite well of the family could afford to hire their own private cook for the trip and Warren and his wife hired Mary Mallon a 37 year old Irish domestic who had emigrated to the States when she was about fifteen.

On August 27, one of the Warren's daughters became ill with typhoid fever. Soon, Mrs. Warren and two maids became ill; followed by the gardener and another Warren daughter. In total, six of the eleven people in the house came down with typhoid.

Since the common way typhoid spread was through water or food sources, the owners of the home feared they would not be able to rent the property again without first discovering the source of the outbreak. The Thompsons first hired investigators to find the cause, but they were unsuccessful.

Then the Thompsons hired George Soper, a civil engineer with experience in typhoid fever outbreaks. It was Soper who believed the recently hired cook, Mary Mallon, was the cause. Mallon had left the Warren's approximately three weeks after the outbreak. Soper began to research her employment history for more clues.

Soper was able to trace Mallon's employment history back to 1900. He found that typhoid outbreaks had followed Mallon from job to job. From 1900 to 1907, Soper found that Mallon had worked at seven jobs in which 22 people had become ill, including one young girl who died, with typhoid fever shortly after Mallon had come to work for them.


Marry Mallon in North Brother Hospital Bed
Wikimedia Commons


Convinced that Mary was the source of these typhoid cases he approached her to see if she would co-operate and allow for the analysis of a stool specimen. Insulted and probably frightened, Mary refused to co-operate, twice threatening Soper with a knife. Eventually, New York Public Health Officials had to "capture" Mary and take her, against her will, to Willard Parker Hospital.

Tests at the hospital revealed Mary to be the first healthy carrier of typhoid fever in the United States. Upon discovering this the health department transferred Mallon to an isolated cottage (part of the Riverside Hospital) on North Brother Island (in the East River near the Bronx).

Mary was taken against her will and essentially imprisoned because she was a carrier of a disease that could kill others who came into contact with the food she was preparing. The incident created a myriad of moral and ethical questions for the health care professionals in the city at the time. There was a charter in place allowing for the quarantine of sick people but to imprison someone who was healthy seemed wrong.

In 1909, after having been isolated for two years on North Brother Island, Mallon sued the health department. But the judge in the case ruled in favor of the health officials and Mallon, now popularly known as "Typhoid Mary," "was remanded to the custody of the Board of Health of the City of New York." Mallon went back to the isolated cottage on North Brother Island with little hope of being released.

In February of 1910, a new health commissioner decided that Mallon could go free as long as she agreed never to work as a cook again. Anxious to regain her freedom, Mallon accepted the conditions. On February 19, 1910, Mary Mallon signed an affidavit stating that she "is prepared to change her occupation (that of cook), and will give assurance that she will upon her release take such hygienic precautions as will protect those with whom she comes in contact, from infection." She was let free.

In early 1915, twenty-five people became ill with typhoid at the Sloane maternity hospital. When workers noticed a resemblance of a cook, Mary Brown, to earlier photos of Typhoid Mary, it was found that Mary had taken a job as a cook at the hospital breaking her agreement with the Public Health Department.

Mallon was again sent to North Brother Island to live in the same isolated cottage that she had inhabited during her last confinement. For twenty-three more years, Mary Mallon remained imprisoned on the island. She would remain at North Brother until her death from complications of a stroke in 1938. An autopsy showed she still was still a carrier at the time of her death.

[Miss Ivy Balls]

"Mallon was again sent to North Brother Island to live in the same isolated cottage that she had inhabited during her last confinement. For twenty-three more years, Mary Mallon remained imprisoned on the island. She would remain at North Brother until her death from complications of a stroke in 1938. An autopsy showed she still was still a carrier at the time of her death"

What a quality of life.

[Mrluvaluva]

Very interesting site. I notice that even the BB house is not safe...

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=23854

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Very interesting site. I notice that even the BB house is not safe...

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=23854

Hahaha.. I've spent hours on that site looking at stuff and have never even noticed that!

God these people must have brass necks just to walk into some of these places eh?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by happyland

Hahaha.. I've spent hours on that site looking at stuff and have never even noticed that!

God these people must have brass necks just to walk into some of these places eh?

I agree. I wouldn't have the balls to do it and it seems to take a lot of planning and finding people "in the know". Some of these places people go past every day and don't even know what they were at one time. I have learnt a few things from there today.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I agree. I wouldn't have the balls to do it and it seems to take a lot of planning and finding people "in the know". Some of these places people go past every day and don't even know what they were at one time. I have learnt a few things from there today.

I wouldn't have the balls to do it, but I would like to go with a crowd of experienced folk..you know just to watch what goes on. I wouldn't like to go anywhere unsafe though.. A few of them break into unstable buildings etc.. that would scare me

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by happyland

I wouldn't have the balls to do it, but I would like to go with a crowd of experienced folk..you know just to watch what goes on. I wouldn't like to go anywhere unsafe though.. A few of them break into unstable buildings etc.. that would scare me

Some of them sound very dangerous, but some of the places are quite breathtaking. It's a shame more cannot be done to renovate them, such as St Pancras Chambers:


http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=26749


I like the fact that the people on the site that "visit" these places respect them and leave them as they find them more or less, so other people can go on enjoying them too, which is more than can be said of some others who have been in some of these places.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Very interesting site. I notice that even the BB house is not safe...

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=23854

that is epic!!!!!!!!

[Miss Ivy Balls]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Very interesting site. I notice that even the BB house is not safe...

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=23854

That thread was closed. Was she even suppose to be in there?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Thomas C

That thread was closed. Was she even suppose to be in there?

Most threads are closed for some reason.. and to be honest with you, I don't think any of these people are supposed to be in any of those places

[Miss Ivy Balls]

I didn't even really know these places existed. Why not knock them down if they're not being used. Is there really a need to keep mental hospitals still standing after years and years.

[setanta]

I'd like to see more late evening shots. They'd be very creepy, with night approaching.

[billy123]

Many thanks to the OP the 28DL forum is a goldmine including a few posts in my hometown including a nuclear bomb shelter which i have also visited with the owner.
Top notch i have spent hours searching that forum i love this type of thing.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Many thanks to the OP the 28DL forum is a goldmine including a few posts in my hometown including a nuclear bomb shelter which i have also visited with the owner.
Top notch i have spent hours searching that forum i love this type of thing.

I'm kinda addicted to "Cities of the Underworld" on discovery Channel.

Quite near to where I live is Scotland's old Nuclear Shelter (now a crappy tourist attraction). My German pals all fall about in stitches when they see the signpostings for it "Scotland's Sectet Bunker ---->". Whenever one of them comes across, it's always their ambition to be photograhed standing next to the signpost and pointing.........I think at least half a dozen have done it now, it's become, an 'I visited Ian' marker to share the pic on a site we use!

[pinkmichk]

that bb one is epic
thomas they are not meant to be in any of the places thats the whole point about it but if you read the site they never break & enter nor do they go in and trash the place or take anything
my favourite poster on there is downfallen go check his stuff in the high stuff out (he mostly did high stuff cos he also had (i say had cos he died in december in a base jumping accident) a love of base jumping & sky diving) his pictures of london from high up buildings are just wow he even got on the 02 (speaking of which check his picture of the 02 in fog just amazing)

[Lee.]

I looked at all his pics.. Really tragic that he died doing something he loved

[billy123]

I have also been reading downfallens reports he was a very talented photographer and graphic artist very sad.
here are a couple of videos he made and put on you tube before he died.

Youtube video

Youtube video

[billy123]

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...ad.php?t=51251
i found that one to be interesting if a bit dangerous.
i read the whole thread and it ended up in the newspapers and the company that owned the site expressed how concerned they were at the breach in security and they had to hire a steeplejack to retrieve the flag they left up there
well the flag had the forums web address on so the steeplejack joined the forum to thank them for earning him £300 he also returned the flag and told them to keep up the good work he he.

[Lee.]

Aw.. Bobnot, I haven't seen those videos. They're amazing but sad too?