[Malza]

Ben appears to have been a little bit hypocritical as after he left the nest he went straight and told Mario that he mustn't talk badly of people - adding 'I don't bitch about people'.

I wish they would play his bitching sessions to the others one day... Ok, that would take days, but well worth it

[BJ]

Originally Posted by Josy

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.

He got that right then

[Legend killer]

Yeah, on some rather unreliable polls
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No on pretty much every poll and also with the bookies

[30stone]

Ben has been bithcing for ages?? and insulting..

What makes this different.

[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are so deluded about their popularity! More and more people who used to like them - are waking up to them - open your eyes!

I dont see why anyone would have turned against them that previously liked them, they havent done anything wrong. Their main compitition for winning the show is fast becoming each other

[30stone]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Ben is the most genuine housemate in there, and alls he says about anyone is pure facts, if you can come back with anything he has said that wasnt't true about anyone in there then do so but make sure you can back it up with undisputable facts.

I think you need to back that up really.

Every thing he says about people is undisputable facts, thats a big call..

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Showstopper

I dont see why anyone would have turned against them that previously liked them, they havent done anything wrong.

Er, they get more and more ridiculous by the day!

Starting to look staged and phoney too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by 30stone

I think you need to back that up really.

Every thing he says about people is undisputable facts, thats a big call..

Well prove any different?

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Ben has been bithcing for ages?? and insulting..

What makes this different.

I don't get what his problem with their friendship is, he's always been sucking up to Josie pretending to like her then slags her off, he obviously doesn't like John James.. it's not like the pair of them have questioned him on his friendship with Dave.

I also find both Ben and Dave keep telling the housemates they love them before tearing into them in The Nest patronising.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by BJ

He got that right then

Let me guess he said it behind marios back again

At least mario (altough over reacts the situations), has the guts to tell Ben the truth to his face, ben on the other hand dosent. I rather have another week of the ****ty romance and dave and his lord than ben bitching about people at any chance given.

[Showstopper]

Plus Bens comments to JJ last night on the live feed were outragous !

[Legend killer]

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

Well he must fancy mario as well, as he cant get through a sentence without saying his name.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Let me guess he said it behind marios back again

At least mario (altough over reacts the situations), has the guts to tell Ben the truth to his face, ben on the other hand dosent. I rather have another week of the ****ty romance and dave and his lord than ben bitching about people at any chance given.

No he doesn't, I can name a few that haven't been said to his face,so be fair here ,mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it. This is why all he ever talks about is john james and he hates josie for the fact that her and john james are close

In your dreams.funny though

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by kazanne

No he doesn't, I can name a few that haven't been said to his face,so be fair here ,mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.

I highly doubt he does what ben does everytime mario is not around him, rip into him.

[bbfan1991]

Mario has finally woken up to Ben, although he is an irritant too.

[Legend killer]

mario does his fair share of being nasty and he's cruel with it to.
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Yea i dont really like mario either i find him very creepy u see the way he just sat there staring at ben on highlights last night very weird

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

I think the problem with ben is he secretly fancies John james and hates himself for it.

What? Er speak for yourself!

Even if Ben were gay I doubt JJ would be his type. Youre overthinking it too much. He bitches about JJ coz JJ has been digging at him from the get go. Looking for an arguement for airtime.

[DavinamcCaw]

Originally Posted by RosieRed xxx

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

He's right though.

[Ladieangel20]

Ben needs to stop making comments about people cause he is just giving BB the power to do a massive hatchet job on him in the highlights.

[joeysteele]

30stone, I challenged you and others to come back with anythign he has said that wasnt true about someone else,I dont need to back that up, BEN makes that easy for me by simlply saying things he's observed and heard which are about the others but always right.People on here try to disagree but it for them to come back with undisputable facts that he has said anything about anyone that was not true,I dont need to because I have said he has not done that and all the programmes bear testament to that, now agai YOU 30stone, come back with anything he's said that was untrue and back that up with the programming undisputable facts as to your point.
If you cannot then I anf his supporters are right and you are unjustly criticising a guy for soemthing he has not done, and as for bitcvhing, ALL the housemates do that and gossip too usaully inventing nonsene as to what smeone has said, JJames being the master of that. Over again to you 30stone.really,the impertinence of you people who have no argument you can back up whatsoever.
Thank you again Kazanne,how do we educate these individuals,are they incapable of understanding and learning at all?

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by RosieRed xxx

He called Josie a pig and John James a piglet ..

really?

+100 pts for Ben if he said that

pig and piglet so true

[joeysteele]

BEN does say a lot about Mario,he has had Mario trying to get him for other reasons since day one. Yes, BEN does say things about MARIO BUT I WILL ENDEAVOUR TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS AGAIN TO YOU.He says things about MARIO but they are ALL true.Come back with anything he has said that isn't.with undisputable facts as to that.
Mario is also always running BEN down, saying some things that are NOT true, such as the GLEE task, Ben was apprehensive as to it, but he got into it and yes he seemed awkward but then he is as ANDREW STONE said classically trined, but BEN put great effort to succeed in that task,MARIO said he did not,MARIO lied,simple and factual.Even ANDREW STONE, when he was pushing BEN as to recording his streetlight people, but pushed and oushed Ben and BEN put his lal into that,whether it was good or not is snother matter but that alone shows that MARIO is a backstabber and a hypocrite,why is he hypocrite too/ HE is becaus ehad BEN showed the slightest interest in him sexually, BEN would ahve been the great hero for Mario,because he hasn't Mario has turned on him and LIES about him, Something BEN does not do anytime he talks about Mario,yes he talks about him but its all true what Ben says.He isn't a saint, but he says what he means and is honest with it.

[RosieRed xxx]

With Ben it's the fact that he has plenty to say behind their backs but when challenged he reverts back to being about 3 yrs and looking around for his nanny to come rescue him...."oh I didnt say that"..."You got me all wrong".."you are so mean to Me". You know he really wants to say "Nanny come and spank these naughty boys and girls their teasing me".
I think he has always had ppl look out for him and has no idea of the real world or how offensive some of his comments are.