[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

30STONE, IF YOU CANNOT NAME AN INSTANCE AND THEN BACK IT UP THEN HOW ARE YOU MAKING THE ASSUMPTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE,sorry for the capitals, but I thought it may help get the message across, are you saying you cannot bring to mind anything he has said that you can back up at all with undisputable facts that were wrong,if that is the case then what on earth are you saying anything as to his integrity at all for then.I repeat, I DONT NEED TO, I ahve said thta all he says about others,and yes, he says a loy about them all, is true, he only says what he sees and hears hinslef, he makes no assumptions of what others may say about someone, he simply states his view, what he has seen and what he has heard and all of it is true, all the programming is testament to that.Since you made the comment he did otherwise then you need to prove that is so, if you cannot, and you dont even have an ainstance to recall easlily from past or recent memory then for goodness sake how can your argument have any creedence whatsoever.
Facts are facts,I state that I know from all the programming I ahve seen, whether live feed, E4 or Channel 4 highlights that he has never done that, he says a lot about people but its all true that he says.whether its nice or not is immaterial as long as its true,now you, from that same source I and everyone else has cannot legitimately name a single instance, I think in anyones book, that m
makes me right and you at the very least dubious in your criticism og Ben with no examples. I actually find it sad that people attack someone who only tells the truth, even though they may not like what he says, but, that doesn't negate his integrity,far from it. It does however show greatly unjustified and downright wrong is the criticism as to his honesty by people who just dont care for Ben throw at him with no substance to their argument or criticism at all.

Great post Joey and you will find people are fond enough of posting that Ben is 'bitching' but can never back it up,I'm sure they think if they keep repeating the same old thing it will become fact,the instances i've seen of him talking is when someone has had a go at him or he is making observations about house mates,the only one i heard him say anything derogotary about was mario,and imo mario thoughoughly deserves it ,some of the things he has said about Ben have been disgusting,but you are wasting your time I doubt many can be bothered to read facts.

[Tom4784]

The public are idiots if they vote out Ben over Dave, that's what's killed each series of BB in the end. It's viewers are so short sighted they'll vote on impulse, neuter the series and then have the cheek to complain that it's boring.

[WOMBAI]

JJ should go, if not Andrew!

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The public are idiots if they vote out Ben over Dave, that's what's killed each series of BB in the end. It's viewers are so short sighted they'll vote on impulse, neuter the series and then have the cheek to complain that it's boring.

They see evictions as moral judgment time and entertainment value isn't considered until the evictions over. Most frustrating part of watching BB, every year.

[alc09]

Originally Posted by Josy

He also called Mario a competitive little creep.

Couldn't have put it better myself - that really is spot on.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by stonedape

They see evictions as moral judgment time and entertainment value isn't considered until the evictions over. Most frustrating part of watching BB, every year.

They did it with freddie and will do it with ben,why do people want to watch boring people?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by angus58

How's that when it won't be US voting to evict him?

I'm sure you can work it out............

[paper-cut-exit]

Originally Posted by kazanne

why do people want to watch boring people?

They don't - that's why a lot of people will be voting for Ben.

[stonedape]

Ok you little ****s, you can complain all day about how mean it is Ben bitches, or what an awful person he is, etc. with no response from me.

But this re-writing of history where Ben wasnt the only character keeping the show alive for the first half of the series, where he's now "boring", is ridiculous. If Ben is boring, his fellow HMs are comatose.

Say what you actually think: Ben pisses you off. And there's nothing boring about that.

[joeysteele]

Well Kazanne at laest 30stone has gone quiet,I know we waste out time but I don't mind for Ben,I hate all forms of discrimination and thta is waht is really behind the snide comments etc, they think BEN is posh, while I wouldn't deny he is likely comfortable,the way he speaks is no indication that he is a posh toff,it merely demonstrates he is educated and articulate.I have friends like Ben and I feel sure that Ben to his friends and those he gets close to is one of the most loyal and trustworthy guys any of them could have as part of their lives.

[eye sea]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm sure it'll be Dave going, especially if he goes into full on god mode again.

Yeah Dave should go. He's past his sell by date.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well Kazanne at laest 30stone has gone quiet,I know we waste out time but I don't mind for Ben,I hate all forms of discrimination and thta is waht is really behind the snide comments etc, they think BEN is posh, while I wouldn't deny he is likely comfortable,the way he speaks is no indication that he is a posh toff,it merely demonstrates he is educated and articulate.I have friends like Ben and I feel sure that Ben to his friends and those he gets close to is one of the most loyal and trustworthy guys any of them could have as part of their lives.

Well when you get a thread with a title like this one,you have to wonder if it IS the john and Josie show,so who cares who slagged who off,it happens everyday with us all,and if it costs Ben going this week so be it at least he is honest and will stay true to his morals and walk out with his head held high,the bloke can't even have a joke now without people pulling him apart and of course deep down it IS because he is posh,they just can't admit it as ben has done nothing worse than(infact less)the others,so it HAS to be his background,it's not rocket science is it?