[Sunday]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

why when John James says something its arogant - yet other housemates do the same and thats fine - he has never once said he will be in the final unlike a lot of the others - he is actually one of the most up front housemates in there - I dont get the hate for him its absolutely ridiculous.

I totally agree.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Sunday

Or to tell him to mind his own business, which is what I would have said.

As Sam said to Josie "It's Britain's business" - they are on a reality tv game show and the public should be well informed as to what exactly it is they are voting for, and not be deceived into believing they are voting for two sly, manipulative individuals who are only intent on convincing people their crapmance is genuine to make it to the final and all the lucrative mag deals.

I recall JJ1 saying to Sam it was like having one of the viewers in the house asking the questions everyone wanted the answers to. It is no coincidence that since Sam's arrival and his searching questions, support for the gruesome twosome has diminished to the extent that JJ1 is languishing far beneath Sam in the odds to win. If Josie were up for eviction this week, I would be voting her out and I daresay loads of other people would too. But at least we can kick JJ1 out.

[rosebay11]

Sam gets away with stuff now, that is totally unacceptable, IMO, such as sneaking around, spying on people, jumping on people in their beds, pulling the covers off a "couple" while they are in bed, constantly attnention seeking - etc - because he looks like a teenage boy.

I wonder what is his future and what will he be like when he turns thirty. IMO, he shows a lot of skills that might fit him for a thief and conman. Sorry!

Watching him makes me sick to my stomach.

[flamingGalah!]

John James really is an arrogant *******!! I bet he thinks he has it "in the bag"... He thinks because he has survived evictions when he knows his behaviour was disgucting, that he can do no wrong... He is an expert on teenage girls after all...

EVICT THE TW*T!!!!

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by angus58

As Sam said to Josie "It's Britain's business" - they are on a reality tv game show and the public should be well informed as to what exactly it is they are voting for, and not be deceived into believing they are voting for two sly, manipulative individuals who are only intent on convincing people their crapmance is genuine to make it to the final and all the lucrative mag deals.

I recall JJ1 saying to Sam it was like having one of the viewers in the house asking the questions everyone wanted the answers to. It is no coincidence that since Sam's arrival and his searching questions, support for the gruesome twosome has diminished to the extent that JJ1 is languishing far beneath Sam in the odds to win. If Josie were up for eviction this week, I would be voting her out and I daresay loads of other people would too. But at least we can kick JJ1 out.

But its entirely their business to what they want Britain, Sam etc to know, they dont have to tell him anything.
It might be all fake but then again it might not be and at the end of the day, they all want deals out of this, including precious Sam.
Thats why they go on it, for fame, money deals etc.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Sunday

But its entirely their business to what they want Britain, Sam etc to know, they dont have to tell him anything.
It might be all fake but then again it might not be and at the end of the day, they all want deals out of this, including precious Sam.
Thats why they go on it, for fame, money deals etc.

I have to disagree with you. People who enter the Big Brother house know they are going to be scrutinised 24/7, and that we, the viewers, will vote to evict those who don't come up to scratch. If HMs are taking the p*ss by removing their microphones, and having mumbled conversations under the duvet,breaking rules and not being punished because they are BB's chosen ones, then we are right to be suspicious of their true intentions and their motives. I don't appreciate being taken the p*ss out of, and I, for one, am GLAD Sam went in and exposed it for the crapmance it really is. JJ1's subsequent bitching about Sam shows how he is running scared, and rightly so, since his popularity has plummeted in the last week or so.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

why when John James says something its arogant - yet other housemates do the same and thats fine - he has never once said he will be in the final unlike a lot of the others - he is actually one of the most up front housemates in there - I dont get the hate for him its absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't 'get' the hate by now,it really is pointless explaining.He has been a first class tosser and hypocrite since he 'picked' on Rachael,he has had a go at people all the way through this,he is a user and liar and very arrogant,IF that is your type of person,that's fine,but don't try and sell him to people that can see his faults as we have sat and watched them,unfold week after week,you couldn't REALLY miss them.

[emmajones_123]

if u want sam to win everyone needs to vote for mario and dave out !!! john james and steve are deffo out and sam is third to go atm so if we get mario and dave enough votes, sam will stay and go on to win it xx

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Sunday

But its entirely their business to what they want Britain, Sam etc to know, they dont have to tell him anything.
It might be all fake but then again it might not be and at the end of the day, they all want deals out of this, including precious Sam.
Thats why they go on it, for fame, money deals etc.

Its entirely our business and our decision as to who we believe is genuine, likeable, has integrity, is interesting, humerous etc. We do this by studying the BB 'persona' each HM adopts and then watching as they are presented with various personalities, tasks etc. to see who unravels. We then decide if we like what we think is the 'real' person. That is our privilage and perogitive. This year we were given a 'gift' with Sam to help us in our probing. Unfortunately the gruesome twosome that is JJJ did not cope with it very well. This is not Sam's fault, but is entirely of their own doing.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rosebay11

Sam gets away with stuff now, that is totally unacceptable, IMO, such as sneaking around, spying on people, jumping on people in their beds, pulling the covers off a "couple" while they are in bed, constantly attnention seeking - etc - because he looks like a teenage boy.

I wonder what is his future and what will he be like when he turns thirty. IMO, he shows a lot of skills that might fit him for a thief and conman. Sorry!

Watching him makes me sick to my stomach.

'sneaking around', 'spying on people' - perhaps he should scoot off to the camera run or hide in the DR while they are having their 'private' bitching conversations, just so he does not 'spy' or 'sneak'. If I overheard someone (and someone who I thought liked me) bitching about me, I would sure stay and listen. As for a 'couple' in bed - WHAT!!!!! are you talking about a couple in bed, in the privacy of their bedroom, behind closed doors blah blah - hardly this situation at all.
And as for Crabby telling him to p*ss off, it was nothing to do with him - well der!!!! yes it is - its his business and OURS

[BBLB]

Originally Posted by rhino

Its entirely our business and our decision as to who we believe is genuine, likeable, has integrity, is interesting, humerous etc. We do this by studying the BB 'persona' each HM adopts and then watching as they are presented with various personalities, tasks etc. to see who unravels. We then decide if we like what we think is the 'real' person. That is our privilage and perogitive. This year we were given a 'gift' with Sam to help us in our probing. Unfortunately the gruesome twosome that is JJJ did not cope with it very well. This is not Sam's fault, but is entirely of their own doing.

See this is where Sams fans dont get it.
Sam is a HM not a spy or a mole,not a reporter or just a member of the public.

He is a HM and therefore has no rights to continually probe into other HMs affairs as a representitive of the public.
He has reasons and motive enough to make any HM look bad,that motive is the winners prize.
If you want to see who the HMs really are then ask yourself who Sam is.

What do you know about Sam other than info from his profile,the thing is Sam is not as open as he makes out to be.
He uses other HMs to get his airtime because he does not have any airtime.

When JJ and Josie were having a row the other day Sam had absolutely no right to interfere or question it.
Most normal people would say sorry I will give you time on your own to sort it out,but Sam was fighting to get his airtime.
Thats what Sams about..making a big impression on the back of other peoples storylines.
As a HM he is redundant.

[BBLB]

Originally Posted by rhino

'its his business and OURS

Thats why they have cameras and microphones,so we can listen without some little sh*t trying to use it to get airtime.

Its not Sams business at all he is a competitor in the game not a member of the public at that point.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBLB

Thats why they have cameras and microphones,so we can listen without some little sh*t trying to use it to get airtime.

Its not Sams business at all he is a competitor in the game not a member of the public at that point.

Microphones that are conveniently switched off by a certain pair when they dont want the public to hear something, and yet when they do (I'm gonna move here, just to be with you Josie) - yep up the game Crabby - we all hear it loud and clear. I think that was the loudest he's ever spoken from under his pit. Sa m is definately a competitor in the game, and one who has decided he will work with the public - for that he gets my full respect, because he's made my voting easier

[BBLB]

Originally Posted by rhino

Microphones that are conveniently switched off by a certain pair when they dont want the public to hear something, and yet when they do (I'm gonna move here, just to be with you Josie) - yep up the game Crabby - we all hear it loud and clear. I think that was the loudest he's ever spoken from under his pit. Sa m is definately a competitor in the game, and one who has decided he will work with the public - for that he gets my full respect, because he's made my voting easier

He cant work with the public though.
Thats like a turkey voting for christmas..it just doesnt happen.

You cannot be both a member of the public who has a right to vote and a competitor in the game.
He does what he does as part of his gameplan not to please people that dislike certain HMs.
Like I said as a HM now he is redundant.

As for the mic switch offs that the job of the producers to sort it,not the job of a competing HM.

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by rhino

Its entirely our business and our decision as to who we believe is genuine, likeable, has integrity, is interesting, humerous etc. We do this by studying the BB 'persona' each HM adopts and then watching as they are presented with various personalities, tasks etc. to see who unravels. We then decide if we like what we think is the 'real' person. That is our privilage and perogitive. This year we were given a 'gift' with Sam to help us in our probing. Unfortunately the gruesome twosome that is JJJ did not cope with it very well. This is not Sam's fault, but is entirely of their own doing.

I feel he should be creating his own personality in the house not using others to get the airtime.
At the end of the day, are any of them being totally real, of course not, they all want to win and will do what they need to, even Sam is not being real.

BB has been around long enough for them to know what works on tv and what gets airtime, thay all do things to get that time.

[Part-timer]

In other years the Austrailian one (loathe him so much ,can't speak his name) wouldn't have passed week 5.
But the characters are so piss poor this year he's managed to stay this long.
And the teenies worship him (cringe)..

His looks ,his hair, his clothes, his cars, his McDonalds.

Not only did he buy his way into BB with his 1st class air travel tickets back and forth but there is absolutley nothing to him at all.

He's a shallow boring ****.

And,i'm convinced that there were much more likeable and interesting Aussies in the audition process that this spoilt gimp,

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by Part-timer

In other years the Austrailian one (loathe him so much ,can't speak his name) wouldn't have passed week 5.
But the characters are so piss poor this year he's managed to stay this long.
And the teenies worship him (cringe)..

His looks ,his hair, his clothes, his cars, his McDonalds.

Not only did he buy his way into BB with his 1st class air travel tickets back and forth but there is absolutley nothing to him at all.

He's a shallow boring ****.

And,i'm convinced that there were much more likeable and interesting Aussies in the audition process that this spoilt gimp,

Im not a teenie but I think he has been worth watching, he has made it more interesting than if he wasnt there. We all love a good argument. LOL.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well.... so would many... lets be honest.Dont mistake his honesty for arrogance.Its different from the likes of Dave and Steve who are convinced he is going friday and THEY are both going to be in the final.That is arrogance!!!

How dull,people defending the cowardy mummys boy ,are you obsessed

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBLB

He cant work with the public though.
Thats like a turkey voting for christmas..it just doesnt happen.

You cannot be both a member of the public who has a right to vote and a competitor in the game.
He does what he does as part of his gameplan not to please people that dislike certain HMs.
Like I said as a HM now he is redundant.

As for the mic switch offs that the job of the producers to sort it,not the job of a competing HM.

Turkey? Christmas? lost on me I'm a vegetarian, not that I ever considered eating Sam in the first place.

I dont question that Sam is a competitor - he is not eligible to vote for his winner, he has however probed enough and exposed enough rats to help me make my votes. A helping hand is always welcome.

He didn't try and please anyone who disliked a housemate, the opposite he concentrated his efforts on the favourites. By definition this means they must actually be liked. Very risky indeed, but imo it paid off as he had them all squeeling like girls.

yes he is redundant, they all are now

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Sunday

I feel he should be creating his own personality in the house not using others to get the airtime.
At the end of the day, are any of them being totally real, of course not, they all want to win and will do what they need to, even Sam is not being real.

BB has been around long enough for them to know what works on tv and what gets airtime, thay all do things to get that time.

Fortunately Sam doesn't need to "create" a personality, he actually has one, unlike the terminally tedious JJ&J. He is the only reason many of us are still watching after Ben left (in dubious voting circumstances).

As for Sam wanting to win, yes I'm sure he would like to, but out of all of them, I would say Sam is the least likely to believe he actually could win. Just because the HMs find him a pain, they have no right to constantly belittle him and tell him he has no chance of winning. He did what it says on the tin, he went in and shook the house up out of it's boring complacency.

If he goes on Friday, he can be credited for JJ1's downfall as he too will be going.

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by rhino

Turkey? Christmas? lost on me I'm a vegetarian, not that I ever considered eating Sam in the first place.

I dont question that Sam is a competitor - he is not eligible to vote for his winner, he has however probed enough and exposed enough rats to help me make my votes. A helping hand is always welcome.

He didn't try and please anyone who disliked a housemate, the opposite he concentrated his efforts on the favourites. By definition this means they must actually be liked. Very risky indeed, but imo it paid off as he had them all squeeling like girls.

yes he is redundant, they all are now

What exactly did he expose?

Josie and John are still together, all the others are the same. I dont see anything exposed, he just caused arguments.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Sunday

What exactly did he expose?

Josie and John are still together, all the others are the same. I dont see anything exposed, he just caused arguments.

aww are there people out there who still think there is a romance - how sweet. Dave and jj2 are not as complacent as they were - he's rattled a few sycophants

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by rhino

aww are there people out there who still think there is a romance - how sweet. Dave and jj2 are not as complacent as they were - he's rattled a few sycophants

I never said there was a romance, I said they were together as they always have been, he hasnt exposed anything really , he has just caused arguments with almost everyone. And then people moan about JJ causing arguments, he has has been far worse.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Sunday

I never said there was a romance, I said they were together as they always have been, he hasnt exposed anything really , he has just caused arguments with almost everyone. And then people moan about JJ causing arguments, he has has been far worse.

JJ1 has been a spiteful, nasty piece of work all through the show with people who didn't deserve it. He made sure he ruined the BB experience for them, so I am very pleased that Sam is putting a spanner in his and Josie's game plans. Anything Sam has said has been to the person's face, and it is usually the truth. I am resigned to him leaving on Friday, but so will JJ1. He and Dave are the main ones I shall be voting to evict, with a few votes thrown Mario and JJ2's way also.

JJ1's desperate attempts to prevent the haters voting won't work because most haters want JJ1 OUT more than they want to keep Sam IN.

[Sunday]

Originally Posted by angus58

JJ1 has been a spiteful, nasty piece of work all through the show with people who didn't deserve it. He made sure he ruined the BB experience for them, so I am very pleased that Sam is putting a spanner in his and Josie's game plans. Anything Sam has said has been to the person's face, and it is usually the truth. I am resigned to him leaving on Friday, but so will JJ1. He and Dave are the main ones I shall be voting to evict, with a few votes thrown Mario and JJ2's way also.

JJ1's desperate attempts to prevent the haters voting won't work because most haters want JJ1 OUT more than they want to keep Sam IN.

I would rather Steve, Mario, JJ2 or Andrew go than Sam, now they really are boring. Then Sam next