[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zippy

He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!

He said when he first went into the house that Corin was one of the prettiest women he had ever seen,and Yes i think you are right he is scared of beautiful women as he could never live up to their expectations.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by Zippy

He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sosadbbend

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

We didn't get to know her properly,she may have been really nice given the chance!!

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by sosadbbend

I wouldn't call Rachael beautiful, she thinks she is, but beauty comes from inside and what I saw of her there wasn't much evidence of that

Y'know it always makes me giggle when John james fans start yapping about decency and bad attitudes in other HMs. I mean, you really should check your consistency.

Nobody has behaved more despicably than him in this series. It seems his fans are as full of hypocrisy as the man himself. Figures I guess. Like attracts like.

[luminoussun]

but she did not call him a rent boy?
He stepped over the line with "the only thing you would turn down is sex for money"
Now he is doing the same mags he slagged her off for doing?

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Y'know it always makes me giggle when John james fans start yapping about decency and bad attitudes in other HMs. I mean, you really should check your consistency.

Nobody has behaved more despicably than him in this series. It seems his fans are as full of hypocrisy as the man himself. Figures I guess. Like attracts like.

It's not just his fans that are obsessed with him obviously

[30stone]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

It's not the fact she's a woman really, it's that he said something EXTREMELY degrading and offensive.

It's like her saying to him "I bet you'd shag Josie if she paid you", it's still very, very offensive.

I guess the fact she's a woman doesn't help really but imo gender doesn't matter this time.

No he said the only thing you wouldnt do is have sex for money..

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by 30stone

No he said the only thing you wouldnt do is have sex for money..

which leaves room for tons of other stuff! It was certainly meant as a huge insult. That much we can all agree on.

[30stone]

Originally Posted by Zippy

which leaves room for tons of other stuff! It was certainly meant as a huge insult. That much we can all agree on.

Of course i was just pointing out the mistake though..

Anyway lets be honest, she would do a lot for money no doubt lol.

[tuesday1962]

It really amazes me that John James fans still thinks that he can do no wrong.

I personally think that John James would have been fairly surprised that Rachael had said very little to the press of John James's treatment of her, considering that he thought that Rachael would do anything for media attention or money.

The fact that Rachael stayed clear of exploiting that angle and basically got on with her life is a credit to her and further shows that she has no need or use to profit from another person’s fortune or in John James case misfortune.

That fact that Rachael was unable to get out of her contract for the returnable task which she had to argue to get it amended so that she was to give rather than received a massage from John James speak volumes in itself.

The fact that what John James said in the task room and then repeated in full bragging mode to the rest of the housemates what he truly meant by saying it stunned and appalled most of them that he would go.

The fact that Rachael declined/refused to appear on BBBM after he got evicted to cause John James further embarrassment to him or his family is more telling how she wouldn’t go beyond the bounds of common decency to beg for or expect his apology as it probably would be a hollow one and just for the cameras.

Like most of the housemates who were expecting this was going to be one of the happiest, fun fill enjoyment and experience and of their lives until they had the misfortune to be in the same house with John James. I felt Rachael’s experience was totally ruined by John James as direct result of treatment towards her and imo an apology to her is long overdue.

John James has proven to be a hypocrite and I hope he disappears quite quickly from memory too.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Anyway lets be honest, she would do a lot for money no doubt lol.

I actually disagree. Honestly.

A woman who looks the spit of Beyonce like her would have had all kinds of offers by now. She has been working internationally as a Beyonce lookalike. No doubt numerous people have contacted to do all kinds of sexy, risky stuff. Bet she's been offered money for sex a few times too.

But the fact that NOTHING came out about her that was shameful in the press just shows she has lived a clean and decent life.

Still she hasnt gone naked. She wouldve taken the offers while BB was still airing if she intended to do so. Bigger money now than later when its off air.

So I think all of this proves you AND John James wrong. The girl clearly has a line she will not cross. I totally believed her when she said that she's turned down lots of offers. She's never been caught out in a lie. Unlike John James!

[cheapbbfan]

what he said was disgusting and if he were any type of decent man, he would have apologized

[stonedape]

For the first fight, she deserves an apology. For the second fight, she doesn't. She approached the first one politely, but she came in looking for a fight last week. She got it.

[Sammi_Who]

The more burning question should be, why did he apologise to Nathan? It was Rachel he offended and then bragged she "copped it"

[Sammi_Who]

Originally Posted by tuesday1962

It really amazes me that John James fans still thinks that he can do no wrong.

I personally think that John James would have been fairly surprised that Rachael had said very little to the press of John James's treatment of her, considering that he thought that Rachael would do anything for media attention or money.

The fact that Rachael stayed clear of exploiting that angle and basically got on with her life is a credit to her and further shows that she has no need or use to profit from another person’s fortune or in John James case misfortune.

That fact that Rachael was unable to get out of her contract for the returnable task which she had to argue to get it amended so that she was to give rather than received a massage from John James speak volumes in itself.

The fact that what John James said in the task room and then repeated in full bragging mode to the rest of the housemates what he truly meant by saying it stunned and appalled most of them that he would go.

The fact that Rachael declined/refused to appear on BBBM after he got evicted to cause John James further embarrassment to him or his family is more telling how she wouldn’t go beyond the bounds of common decency to beg for or expect his apology as it probably would be a hollow one and just for the cameras.

Like most of the housemates who were expecting this was going to be one of the happiest, fun fill enjoyment and experience and of their lives until they had the misfortune to be in the same house with John James. I felt Rachael’s experience was totally ruined by John James as direct result of treatment towards her and imo an apology to her is long overdue.
John James has proven to be a hypocrite and I hope he disappears quite quickly from memory too.

I agree, he ruined Corin's too.

I think Davina was right when she said Corin underestimated JJs fans, and how he could do no wrong in their eyes. They voted her out, and Racheal too. It was quite disgusting to see all both women did "wrong" was be at the recieving end of his angry rant fueled bullying. Its ridiculous. We've moved from the "fit" guy being able to sail through to the final on looks, to pretty much bullying

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Zippy

He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon.

...and I reckon the reason for that is because he was probably bullied by the 'hot' girls at school for his height [like he said he was].

[rusticgal]

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

Do you KNOW Rachael?it figures you are a Crabby fan,you even think like him,NO one should stick to an opinion if they don't know the truth,WHY do you and him think she is a slag?and will do anything for money,it's a bit presumtuous to judge someone like that,but I suppose you believe ANYTHING Crabby states,and what the eff has it to do with him anyway,your obsession with him is over the top

[tuesday1962]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Totally agree with OP.... John has his opinions and he sticks to them... he is right she is a slag and will do anything for money.
Its an opinion...why should anyone have to apologise.

It a pity you have to use derogative words to label a housemates just because you can. Try proving your point without name calling as up there with the lowest for of wit.

Hopefully in a few months time with the fall from of this series, you will probably see why most people think that some of the housemates especially Rachael is owed an apology from John James.