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MrWong · 27-08-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie10

And again he continues to lower his head and head butting her. Can't he kiss or something. He looks like an awkward teenager learning to kiss.

Headlock - Peck - Head butt - Neck snuggle

It's not that he can't kiss it's that he doesn't want to kiss her.

There's zero passion

Sunday · 27-08-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Isn't it funny that that is the first thing he said to her? Of all the things that went on how is he even sure that that was her problem?

Hm is it because Nadia was saying the truth John james?

She was in the diary room and I bet she said what the problem was, her reaction to Nadia was shock.

rusticgal · 27-08-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shardlake

He knows what to say and when to say it doesnt he?

Josie looked awful coming out of there like she had just got out of bed, she makes Nadia look like Kate Moss

Whats wrong with that?... human nature.Who did Nadia think she was judging their relationship... Nadia was completely insensitive as too was John mcqueerick... Nadia realised she had said too much because she just cant help herself.She showed no regard for Josies feelings and try to understand her vulnerability.
I felt sorry for Josie...its no wonder she walked.... AND nadia will never look anything like Kate Moss..

MrWong · 27-08-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Whats wrong with that?... human nature.Who did Nadia think she was judging their relationship... Nadia was completely insensitive as too was John mcqueerick... Nadia realised she had said too much because she just cant help herself.She showed no regard for Josies feelings and try to understand her vulnerability.
I felt sorry for Josie...its no wonder she walked.... AND nadia will never look anything like Kate Moss..

Isn't she, like every one of us who watched, entitled to an opinion?
Although i'll agree she was tactless in her delivery.

rusticgal · 27-08-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Some here are forgetting that John James got into the camera runs because he thought he had made Josie look bad.

Who here remembers Paul Clark?

They too said he was stringing poor Helen along in a cynical game. One newspaper had as it's headlines "I'll give Helen the Heave Ho!" quoting friends as sources. Even Josh accused Paul of game playing!

They were together for five years before Helen called time on that relationship.

I was one of the few voices at the time back in 2001 to say Paul was genuine and not the manipulator. John James earlier "escape attempt" heavily indicates he is genuine.

As for what he said, fat or prat is neither here nor there, the point is Nadia along with other UBB HM's were questioning John James honour and integrity, making the same base assumption as others here and how others treated Paul Clark.

Going back into history, after Paul's eviction both Brian and Elizabeth both did exactly the same trick by telling Helen that Paul may not have been what he seemed.

Josie was already suffering after going out for a brief time, seeing everyone outside and then going back in. What the old UBB-HM's did was push her over the edge.

As for conspiracy theories, John James was in the compound to film a message and strange as it sounds, coincidences do happen.

The lesson from history is quite clear, the male in the relationship is always accused of stringing the female along, and most of the time that is proved to be wrong. Males find it hard to show emotions, so maybe that is why they are accused of being fake.

History also shows, except in the one unique case of Pete and Nicky, it is usually the female who ultimately ends it.

My observations based on years of experience as first a Cyber Warrior and then as a Cyber Devil's Advocate leads me to the conclusion that John James is the genuine article.

Well bloody said...

lime · 27-08-2010, 10:23 AM

Sound's like fat to me.
Does anyone remember him using the word prat in the house ?

Livia · 27-08-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

As much as i dislike him he wouldnt make fun of a womans size so this is probably untrue

Yeah... he never said that thing about Josie having 97 chins, did he. Oh hang on a minute, yes he did.

fingers · 27-08-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lime

Sound's like fat to me.
Does anyone remember him using the word prat in the house ?

He had to ask for the meaning of so many words, I doubt he has even heard of prat!

SFGiantsfan · 27-08-2010, 10:32 AM

If John James really loved her, why would she have anything to worry about?

Livia · 27-08-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fingers

He had to ask for the meaning of so many words, I doubt he has even heard of prat!

Ironic, eh?

amy-jaynee · 27-08-2010, 10:39 AM

They do not love eachother so there is no suprise. So annoying, they're not going to stay together.
I don't know why the film crew were there, when Shabby and Keeva left, they were filmed obviously, but Josie broke out, so it was either planned, or a rush to film her leaving moments, and John may have been at the studio anyway and they got hold of him to tell him she was out

Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 27-08-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Some here are forgetting that John James got into the camera runs because he thought he had made Josie look bad.

Who here remembers Paul Clark?

They too said he was stringing poor Helen along in a cynical game. One newspaper had as it's headlines "I'll give Helen the Heave Ho!" quoting friends as sources. Even Josh accused Paul of game playing!

They were together for five years before Helen called time on that relationship.

I was one of the few voices at the time back in 2001 to say Paul was genuine and not the manipulator. John James earlier "escape attempt" heavily indicates he is genuine.

As for what he said, fat or prat is neither here nor there, the point is Nadia along with other UBB HM's were questioning John James honour and integrity, making the same base assumption as others here and how others treated Paul Clark.

Going back into history, after Paul's eviction both Brian and Elizabeth both did exactly the same trick by telling Helen that Paul may not have been what he seemed.

Josie was already suffering after going out for a brief time, seeing everyone outside and then going back in. What the old UBB-HM's did was push her over the edge.

As for conspiracy theories, John James was in the compound to film a message and strange as it sounds, coincidences do happen.

The lesson from history is quite clear, the male in the relationship is always accused of stringing the female along, and most of the time that is proved to be wrong. Males find it hard to show emotions, so maybe that is why they are accused of being fake.

History also shows, except in the one unique case of Pete and Nicky, it is usually the female who ultimately ends it.

My observations based on years of experience as first a Cyber Warrior and then as a Cyber Devil's Advocate leads me to the conclusion that John James is the genuine article.

All those couples properly kissed. FAIL!

flamingGalah! · 27-08-2010, 11:40 AM

I loved how as soon as he stopped hugging Josie he was straight on his mobile... not doubt to his "management" to quickly sign her up too & start ringing round the cheap mags & rags to see who wants their "story"...

I reckon that Josie had always planned to come out after 2 days as well. When she won & just before she went back into the house she was allowed to hug John James & they went off stage at the back briefly... I think he told her that his management advised them to get into mags/rags asap so they could make the most money... as lets face it by the time UBB finishes they will be OLD news...

Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 27-08-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I loved how as soon as he stopped hugging Josie he was straight on his mobile... not doubt to his "management" to quickly sign her up too & start ringing round the cheap mags & rags to see who wants their "story"...

I reckon that Josie had always planned to come out after 2 days as well. When she won & just before she went back into the house she was allowed to hug John James & they went off stage at the back briefly... I think he told her that his management advised them to get into mags/rags asap so they could make the most money... as lets face it by the time UBB finishes they will be OLD news...

flashforward: Star magazine; how I finally lost weight to smooth john james over. he is the best lover I ever had.30 seconds comment was just to hide the fact that he could go all night long

JEJ · 27-08-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I loved how as soon as he stopped hugging Josie he was straight on his mobile...

Yup, duly noted, there was a good 10 feet between them too, his body language always speaks volumes.

JEJ · 27-08-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie10

And again he continues to lower his head and head butting her. Can't he kiss or something. He looks like an awkward teenager learning to kiss.

I think Mr Wong is right and that he doesn't WANT to kiss her BUT, (I'm not saying this is right but) it has occurred to me that there's a possibility he may have a complex about having bad breath, when they're snuggling he keeps his mouth firmly closed and remember how upset he got when he was being ribbed for not brushing his teeth?

Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 27-08-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JEJ

Yup, duly noted, there was a good 10 feet between them too, his body language always speaks volumes.

indeed speaks volumes. straight after the "kiss"

Josies hand reaches out for him, he dodges and looks down as if in shame. ouch josie. he doesn't want what you're looking for love. search for some other beef

Zippy · 27-08-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

As much as i dislike him he wouldnt make fun of a womans size so this is probably untrue

Are you serious? You must have missed the fat insults he made to Josie weeks ago!

And havent you learnt by now that he is a total fake and is nothing what he claims to be about? I mean, look at how he's now whoring himself out to amy TV/mag that will have him!

YES he would joke about a womans size!

Shardlake · 27-08-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

Headlock - Peck - Head butt - Neck snuggle

It's not that he can't kiss it's that he doesn't want to kiss her.

There's zero passion

You cant blame him really, everyone has to have some physical attraction to their partner, there is nothing superficial about that.

Seeing Josie walking out of the house yesterday towards the fire exit I thought, god not even I would look twice at that, and I would personally consider John James infinitely better looking than me who if he wanted to could easily pull glamour model types.

I'm not saying if you are over a certain weight you are automatically physically unattractive, there are some very attractive larger ladies Ruth Jones for one. But she looked rough as assholes walking out yesterday. She looked like a council estate chav that had slipped on clothes that had been lying on the floor for a week so she could put the bins out.

I slept with a fat (actually Josie's not fat she's medically obese. Which is a fact, before anyone starts) bird once and I literally had to leave the room to vomit.

Legend killer · 27-08-2010, 01:17 PM

lol tis is really pathetic now tis hatred 4 him he clearly said PRAT

Sticks · 27-08-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

All those couples properly kissed. FAIL!

Actually Paul and Helen never actually kissed in the house.

The only time they actually kissed was at the final whilst Brian was being interviewed.

Showstopper · 27-08-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well bloody said...

Absolutely 100% spot on

Josy · 27-08-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

indeed speaks volumes. straight after the "kiss"

Josies hand reaches out for him, he dodges and looks down as if in shame. ouch josie. he doesn't want what you're looking for love. search for some other beef

Looks down in shame?

He was texting, he could even have been texting Josies family to tell them what had happened for all you know.