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30stone · 28-09-2010, 11:36 PM

Yes i know that but i just find that mentality wrong, im going out to injure another professional sportsman over next to nothing..
He was frankly a bit of a dick, in my opinion at least.

setanta · 28-09-2010, 11:39 PM

It's what made him the player he was. Don't agree with it myself, but for a guy like him it must have driven him mad to see a guy telling him he was a faker while he rolled around in agony.

30stone · 28-09-2010, 11:53 PM

Yeah it would piss you off but to still have that going round in your mind 3 years later? he must have had some problems lol.

It was wrong of him anyway and should have got a longer ban.

You can be aggressive, and you can be a wanker. in that match he was the latter.

setanta · 28-09-2010, 11:59 PM

I'd still have him over Gerrard though. Have him over most midfielders to be honest with you. He's a warrior.

30stone · 29-09-2010, 12:08 AM

Just is just class though.

works as hard.
is box to box despite what people have said.

Yet is a consistant finisher too.

setanta · 29-09-2010, 12:13 AM

He's not in the same league as Keane Ben. Really. Look, Gerrard can be great, but nah, Keane was incredible on a pitch in his prime.

30stone · 29-09-2010, 12:35 AM

Keane has become overated.

Not in the same league?? what are you talking about, Gerrard is one of the best players in the world right now..

setanta · 29-09-2010, 12:40 AM

No he's not. What's he won? Keane was the best in the business in his prime.

30stone · 29-09-2010, 12:44 AM

Whats Torres won? yet still considered the best striker in the world at times...
Whats fabregas won ? yet is also considered one of the best in the world.

Keane was never the best player in the world...

setanta · 29-09-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 30stone

Whats Torres won? yet still considered the best striker in the world at times...
Whats fabregas won ? yet is also considered one of the best in the world.

Keane was never the best player in the world...

I never said he was, but if you ask any of the greatest players of his era who would they have first on their team it would be Keane.

Locke. · 29-09-2010, 12:52 AM

If Gerrard played for Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid, he would be considered the best player in the world. Because he plays for a team that don't win a trophy every year he is overlooked.

setanta · 29-09-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke.

If Gerrard played for Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid, he would be considered the best player in the world. Because he plays for a team that don't win a trophy every year he is overlooked.

Would have, could have, should have. He didn't, Keane did. I'm sorry, that's very important, plus Gerrard has never won a league title. That's a huge thing.

30stone · 29-09-2010, 12:58 AM

I disagree a lot of people wouldnt have wanted to play with him because of his aggressive nasty nature.

Underating Gerrard 100%.

Like i said Torres hasnt won the league either, and start of last season i think it was last season, people were saying he was the best striker in the world.. so..

Keane didnt tackle he went in to foul.
Without just kicking their legs.. he would be tormented by pacey skillful players like messi villa torres...

Locke. · 29-09-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Would have, could have, should have. He didn't, Keane did. I'm sorry, that's very important, plus Gerrard has never won a league title. That's a huge thing.

It would have been a mistake moving abroad, rarely works out for English players. I can see why he stuck with us a few years ago when he was linked with Chelsea, but that was probably the wrong choice career wise for him (although i'm obviously glad that he stayed).

setanta · 29-09-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 30stone

I disagree a lot of people wouldnt have wanted to play with him because of his aggressive nasty nature.

Underating Gerrard 100%.

Like i said Torres hasnt won the league either, and start of last season i think it was last season, people were saying he was the best striker in the world.. so..

Keane didnt tackle he went in to foul.
Without just kicking their legs.. he would be tormented by pacey skillful players like messi villa torres...

And you don't think Gerrard goes in to foul sometimes or Torres? When Gerrard was playing in the centre rather than attacking midfield he was just as physical. Sure look what's happened since he was put back in that position - should have been sent off last weekend.

I don't subscribe to this theory that he was a thug, and as I said before, you ask the players of his era who they would have on their team and he'd be top of their lists.

30stone · 29-09-2010, 01:34 AM

lol yes maybe so but nothing like keane!
I just watched a video.. someone slide tackled him, so he decided to stamp on their balls and their stomach twice with some fury..
took a swing at shearer.. pushed a ref and attempted to headbutt one..

And as i said before a lot of players wouldnt want to play with him just down to his aggressive nature.