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Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

Who are you to tell me when to post? Having a child doesn't make you more entitled to an opinion ffs. If anything it seems to have made you all more bloody irrational! Do you actually think your child would want to see their parent locked up for abusing/murdering their abuser when their trying to get on with their life?

When did I say I'd murder their abuser? I said I'd rip my own heart out for my girl

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

It is about the reasoning behind it though!

No it's not, you'd still be a murderer in the eyes of the law and too right. the law needs to be black and white otherwise it's pointless and we'd all suffer.

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:23 AM

I think it would be better to study the serious offenders. Find out what makes them who they are. What triggers them and what made them make the leap from thinking about it of looking at it to actually doing it. This way we could pick up the early warning signs from kids who act strangely or young adults. Instead of killing someone, use them to possibly save more children from harm in the future, and intervene early if someone looks to be going that wau.

Lee. · 07-10-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

So your opinion is worth more then mine? Get a grip. I think I'd have an idea how I'd react. I'd be beyond distraught that it happaned and a failure for not being able to prevent although it wasn't anyone's fault but the peadophile in question. I like to think that I could focus on my kid's recovery from the horrific ordeal rather then getting swallowed up in hate. Since the kid would obviously be more important then my own feelings and I'd put everything into making sure they can move past this and carry on without it hurting them anymore.

I'm not a clueless idiot, I can empathise a little with the situation.

My opinion still stands though, the law system isn't perfect but it's a godsend compared to some of the solutions offered up in this thread.

No! I'm not saying my opinion is worth more than yours! Not at all. I realise debate can't happen without differing opinions.

However, once you have a child of your own, you will, without a doubt feel a love so fierce that you would kill for him/her. That's not an opinion, it's what parenthood does to you.

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

When did I say I'd murder their abuser? I said I'd rip my own heart out for my girl

Agreeing with capital punishment is agreeing with murder. Unless ofcourse you wouldn't do it yourself you'd just be quite happy for someone else completely unrelated to the case to do your dirty work for you.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is a debate thread, she has the right to dissect your posts like you can do to hers. You've got no right to tell her when or when not to share her opinion and who with.

Yes, I know. But she ought to learn which are my posts then

setanta · 07-10-2010, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by angus58

I know all that, but you have still not come up with any viable alternative to a lengthy stay at her majesty's pleasure. My beef is that the sentences are laughable and are no deterrent or, more to the point, protection for children in particular.

I understand your frustration and believe me, I'd want some retribution too if any of the people that I love were harmed in any way, but this problem wont disappear with them in prison, you know? And don't forget that you wanted them to be chopped up or hanged in your first comment, and it's that kinda of emotive language that will sever any kind of chances of making real progress in dealing with the issue head on. As long as we're around there'll be paedophiles, and I just think we should learn more about the condition rather than give in to hate, you know?

But yeah, they shouldn't be allowed back out after offending, especially since there's no cure as of yet for their condition.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

No it's not, you'd still be a murderer in the eyes of the law and too right. the law needs to be black and white otherwise it's pointless and we'd all suffer.

Yes. The law NEEDS to be changed.

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

Yes, I know. But she ought to learn which are my posts then

I never even mentioned your ****ing post!

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

I said I'd rip MY!!!!!!!!!!!! heart out for my girl

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

Yeah it's pretty annoying lol

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

I hope you're joking

Lee. · 07-10-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

I understand your frustration and believe me, I'd want some retribution too if any of the people that I love were harmed in any way, but this problem wont disappear with them in prison, you know? And don't forget that you wanted them to be chopped up or hanged in your first comment, and it's that kinda of emotive language that will sever any kind of chances of making real progress in dealing with the issue head on. As long as we're around there'll be paedophiles, and I just think we should learn more about the condition rather than give in to hate, you know?

But yeah, they shouldn't be allowed back out after offending, especially since there's no cure as of yet for their condition.

Yes there is.. castration!

(Hi by the way)

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I hope you're joking

they put a giggle smilie up which means there joking i think.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

I think it would be better to study the serious offenders. Find out what makes them who they are. What triggers them and what made them make the leap from thinking about it of looking at it to actually doing it. This way we could pick up the early warning signs from kids who act strangely or young adults. Instead of killing someone, use them to possibly save more children from harm in the future, and intervene early if someone looks to be going that wau.

Yes.. we can use this for some of them. But not for the ones who have already murdered. Yet they will get special treatment in a rehabilitation centre and us tax payers have to pay for them? No thanks.....

I think most of them CHOOSE to look at porn and rape and kill babies.

A minority will have a serious mental condition. It is a choice at the end of the day. Most will know it is wrong what they are doing. If they commit the crime, they have to pay the price. Life in prison and they should still be well.. "tested" why did they do this.. blah blah.. or be tested then.. capital punishment? Their choice!

I wouldn't bother ever letting them out in the real world again......

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

Yes. The law NEEDS to be changed.

No it doesn't, at most sentences need to be made longer. The changes you've offered up would lead to the loss of thousands of innocent lives as it would result in anarchy where anyone could meld the law into what they need it to be to justify there crimes.

The law can NEVER be a shade of grey, if you can't see that then there's no point in continuing the conversation.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

they put a giggle smilie up which means there joking i think.

Seriously hope so.

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

setanta · 07-10-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

Yes there is.. castration!

(Hi by the way)

Apparently it doesn't work all the time because it can be a psychological as well as physiological condition. But yeah, hiya.

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

How about using insults about people's age and telling them when and when not to post just because their not mothers?

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

Yes.. we can use this for some of them. But not for the ones who have already murdered. Yet they will get special treatment in a rehabilitation centre and us tax payers have to pay for them? No thanks.....

The ones who have already murdered could be most useful, and they could be the key to figuring out, what pushes them over the edge to kill.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

How about using insults about people's age and telling them when and when not to post just because their not mothers?

I said grow up. Even if you were twelve you can act it.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:31 AM

It was a joke but it is seriously annoying, if you can't debate with someone without acting all superior saying that we don't know because we're not parents then you might as well leave as that's not a debate, try and actually argue the points instead of just going 'You're not a parent you don't understand'.

It's a cheap and annoying copout.

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