[Angus]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I slept on this debate and what a great debate it is, of course there are passionate views on all sides and I can see InOnes arguments too.
My firm respect on this thread goes to Angus58 and kazane who have made soild, points all the time even in the face of hostility at times. but I understand the emotions this will enrage in others too who take a differing view.

I know the word evil is considered a wrong word to use as to people, but I feel it is the only word to describe anyone who abuses a child.I think that abuse,which often also ends in the death of a child too remember,is one that can only be termed evil and the full weight of the law should be piled on the abuser.
I am against capital punishment in the main but I cannot comprehend the rotten minds that are into child abuse.so for me something more severe does need to be done to deal with these people(I use the word people loosely).

My only fear of capital punishment is that if someone knows if caught,that they are likely to face a death penalty,then it is likely they will kill the child they are abusing in order to try to get away with it, especially so if the child could identify them,thinking on the lines they had nothing to lose by killing the child. Punishment though needs to be different and more unpleasant.

I also have to say what brilliant contributions from jedward fever on this too, he is only 14 and his knowledge on so many issues are amazing, his family should be very proud of him and he has talked more sense in this debate than many others who are certainly older than him. How great to know someone like jedward fever is also part of the future of this Country. Superb reasoning from you jedward fever. Very impressive and right.

Great debate, an emotive issue and I still stand totally alongside kazanne and Angus58 in their views.

Yes, it is a highly emotive issue and it's not surprising that there are strongly held views on both sides of the argument. It got quite heated at one point, but on the other hand it would have been strange if it had not.

I, too, am impressed by jedward fever's grasp of points made and his ability to form his own opinions about such important issues at such a young age. I find his attitude and comments far more mature than those of some on here.

To think the whole argument kicked off because I dared to state that IF the justice system were to fail me, I would not let it rest there, I would do all in my power to ensure the perpetrator was punished! How else are we to get the government to address the imbalance between the rights of criminals and victims' families if people just sit back and accept the status quo. Until proper and appropriate sentences are handed down to criminals, our judicial system will continue to betray law abiding citizens, and allow criminals to commit dreadful crimes for which they know they will not have to pay a corresponding penalty.