[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Consider this Pyramid if a certain persons fingerprints are on the pizza box who at the time of her purchasing the item claims was somewhere else then they have the culprit - that is why IMHO they are putting so much store on finding the packaging.

Really !!! LOL


who could have handled the pizza box ... oh I wonder..... *thinks for a split second*... lots of people!

At point of manufacture.

At point of being packed to store

At point of being unpacked at store.

At point of being placed in freezer at store

At point of another customer picking it up, then placing it back in freezer

At point of checkout assistant charging it on till

At point of Joanna touching it

At point of being emptied into bin lorry, wind could have caught it as bin emptied, bin man (not wearing gloves) could have picked it up and thrown in bin lorry....
yeah.....

Oh...and of course, the possibility of it being the killer.

You're not living up to your name much here really !!!

[mrscolumbo]

Fair comment Pyramid but if there are fingerprints that shouldn't be on the packaging and they belong to a 'suspect' bit hard for that 'suspect' to protest his innocence anymore - case closed.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Fair comment Pyramid but if there are fingerprints that shouldn't be on the packaging and they belong to a 'suspect' bit hard for that 'suspect' to protest his innocence anymore - case closed.

This of course could be a possibility - but I guess it's the only thing that the police have on their only suspect - which at this point in time, still remains that they have nothing on him.

In response to your assumption earlier

if a certain persons fingerprints are on the pizza box who at the time of her purchasing the item claims was somewhere else then they have the culprit

- who is to say that Joanna's bin wasn't overflowing, CJ had been putting something in his own bin, noticed the overflowing bin of Joanna's, of which the pizza box was one of the things hanging over the edge, he lifts lid and pushes the box down to allow lid to close.

CJ's prints on a pizza box could have very plausible reason for it - and not beyond all comprehension either.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

This of course could be a possibility - but I guess it's the only thing that the police have on their only suspect - which at this point in time, still remains that they have nothing on him.

In response to your assumption earlier - who is to say that Joanna's bin wasn't overflowing, CJ had been putting something in his own bin, noticed the overflowing bin of Joanna's, of which the pizza box was one of the things hanging over the edge, he lifts lid and pushes the box down to allow lid to close.

CJ's prints on a pizza box could have very plausible reason for it - and not beyond all comprehension either.

I really think the police are only focusing on the pizza box and the mysterious 4x4 in the absence of anything else to go on. It's amazing really that there is such a complete and utter lack of any hard evidence.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

I really think the police are only focusing on the pizza box and the mysterious 4x4 in the absence of anything else to go on. It's amazing really that there is such a complete and utter lack of any hard evidence.

The pizza box... unless there is something on Joanna's body that would indicate the need to find the box which the police have chosen not to make public for whatever reason - I'm mystified for all the reasons I've metioned earlier.

As for the 4x4. Given that's only pretty recent development (on the back of the 'vehicle being driven oddly and doing a 'u turn' a few days ago: I have to agree.

There seems to be great focus on DNA from the front door also: but not much is being mentioned - was it kicked in? Are there footprints on the door?

Was it a break-in/burglar who 'chibbed' there way in hence so much focus on the door? Did Joanna disturb them - is there blood on the box, does Jo have anything under fingernails to link to a killer? So many questions!!

I am beginning to think the police really have nothing tangible at all and are having to grasp at straws.

[mrscolumbo]

Ah so the packaging - if it is ever found - could implicate an innocent person too - someone who was keeping the residents bin area clean and clear of rubbish like the good landlord Mr Jefferies would do.

[mrscolumbo]

No sexual assualt - however consensual intercourse may have taken place before Joanna's death - think that must rule out certain people.

[JobsForTheBoys]

The pizza box and the door will have vital pieces of the killers DNA on them.

The pizza box will have been disposed of for one reason only and thats because the killers DNA will have been on or inside the box. It will have been slightly harder to dispose of the front door in the same way as the pizza box and thats why the police have taken it away to be painstakenly scrutinised.

Yes there will be loads of fingerprints on it from delivery men and postmen etc. But what they are trying to find are fingerprints with pizza on them which can be matched to the pizza she bought. I think they can date fingerprints to within 6 hours.

One point to ponder on is that it seems highly likely she knew the killer to let him share her pizza because a random killer coming in off the street would not bother about sitting down and cooking or eating someones pizza after he has just killed somebody. And its unlikely she would have offered him a piece beforehand. So why would a stranger bother about taking a pizza box???

I have referred to the killer as a "he" because I dont think its a "she"