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28-01-2011, 11:38 PM
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Yeah I appreciate the hunting point, seems a lot of that happens on internet forums, something to do with the ability to vent regardless of knowledge or understanding. Its a shame some people dont mull over the what ifs before posting vitriolic garbage. |
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29-01-2011, 09:09 AM
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29-01-2011, 10:59 AM
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Are you seriously so blinkered that you can't accept the Sun aren't able to even get their own story correct? The Sun publish 2 different articles on 2 different days both with differing information. Shasown's link show's an article published in the Sun dated 26th Jan - which states that VT was moved from Bristol to Gloucester. Your link here, shows the Sun publishing an article dated 27th Jan (a day later!!) stating he's still in Bristol. Please read this next part very carefully - the very same tabloid is reporting 2 very different things and is completely contradicting itself. Article in the Mirror, dated 27th Jan. States he was moved from Bristol to Gloucester. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22878251/ Article in the Metro, run from info from the Sun!! dated 26th Jan. States he was moved from Bristol to Gloucester. http://www.metro.co.uk/news/853763-v...l-attack-fears Article on small world news - also run on info from the Sun... dated 26th Jan. States he was moved from Bristol to Gloucester, even mentions jails are 30 miles away. http://swns.com/vincent-tabak-moved-...rs-260947.html Is this finally sinking in yet? The Sun 'go back' on what they reported a day previous. Thus, in reply to your comment, "Got it wrong have they" - Yes. Clearly the Sun have got it wrong and haven't got a clue what the left hand is doing from the right hand. A point that Shausown made clear when they said the Sun were completely undermining their very own article in respect of Long Larton. You're not really cut out for this detective lark are you!! Last edited by Pyramid*; 29-01-2011 at 12:24 PM. |
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29-01-2011, 12:36 PM
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Case list for Bristol Crown Court shows that Vincent Tabak is to appear via video link from HMP Longlartin for the preliminary hearing on Monday: Not very good at this lark are you. |
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29-01-2011, 01:15 PM
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dont suppose you'd actually care to comment on the details of my post, the links provided that were in direct reply to your comment about the Sun tabloid getting it wrong? Mmmm..... nah. I thought not. Quote:
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29-01-2011, 12:21 PM
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Just a little, to add a little more to what Pyramid posted. Normal monitoring of prisoners is carried out every 30-60 minutes depending on the risk category, when prisoners are locked in cells. "Suicide watch" is a generic, non official term for increased monitoring due to the risk of self harm. The Sun state the prison officers overseeing his care are to check on him every 30 minutes. Dont you think monitoring a prisoner every 30 minutes would allow him to commit suicide easily in the time available? I certainly do. If i was monitoring a prisoner who it is thought is at risk of self harming or suicide I would check on them at intervals of no less than 10 minutes (that is at least 6 checks an hour). My reasoning being if he was to hang himself by some improvised method it would take a couple of minutes to set himself up, then you have a few minutes where he slowly strangulates or bleeds out. All in all about 8-10 minutes or so, unless he really knew what he was doing. Hey and guess what? The Home Office agree with me!!! Not with The Ferking Sun Thats why they issued a Prison Service Order to deal with Suicide Prevention and Self Harm Management. Its called PSO 2700. And guess what, you can read it here http://pso.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/ps...PSO_itself.htm If that is too much for you to read you can cut out most of the crap and cut straight to the important bits, the annexes here: http://pso.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/ps..._1-8.htm#Anx8g Just one other point, all sorts of prisoners are routinely sent to Cat B prisons, all prison staff are trained to deal with Suicidal and self harming individuals, regardless of the category of prison they work at. So why would they send what is in essence a normal remand prisoner to a Cat A prison? Because of the high media interest? Last edited by Shasown; 29-01-2011 at 12:27 PM. |
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29-01-2011, 08:38 PM
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And who do you mean when you write 'they' ? And - more importantly - how can anyone at all know what is 'right' or 'wrong' - in mostly any respect - at this stage? |
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29-01-2011, 08:48 PM
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in fact their catch phrase is 'but that's NOT what I SAID' 
Last edited by CarriKP; 29-01-2011 at 08:49 PM. |
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