[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Shasown

An interesting perspective, incidentally, remind me how many states were there at the time of the American Revolution?

You do realise if it wasnt for the UK and France there would be no United States?

I love the fact if it wasnt for French assistance your Revolution would have been little more than an unruly uprising and quashed. That must really hurt your pride.

Not really. I've studied the Revolution and saying America couldn't have done it without France (while true) is kind of like saying Frodo couldn't have destroyed The Ring of Power without Gollum. France wanted America to be independent but they also wanted to screw America by making it weak, decentralized, and (most importantly) dependent on France. But neither France nor the UK got what they wanted. The Revolution is really a classic example of a group of amateurs outsmarting the two superpowers of the day. I take pride in that.