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24-04-2011, 04:58 PM | #1 | |||
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I used to think the sun shone out of his arse...but 5 years now and nothing. Not even the Carling Cup
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24-04-2011, 05:01 PM | #2 | |||
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50/50 on it really...
You aren't going to win trophies if you don't spend any money, and Wenger doesn't seem to want to.. Need another goalscorer to partner VP aswell, because Bendtner and Chamakh are absolutely terrible. |
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24-04-2011, 05:07 PM | #3 | ||
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Don't like him.
He wouldn't give us Ramsey til the end of the season when he's being wasted at Arsenal atm, dick.
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24-04-2011, 05:13 PM | #4 | |||
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I don't think he should go, I think the end to this season is going to show how badly he needs a better keeper and a better partner for Van Persie or another centre forward, once that's sorted Arsenal will probably win the Premier League again.
I admire his ambition for the younger players and how much time he gives them but he really does need to start buying as well, and once he has, I think the gooner fans are going to start warming to him again. |
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24-04-2011, 05:50 PM | #5 | |||
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Arsenal would have won the title by now if he brought Mcgregor at the start of the season. he's to proud though.. think's he always knows what's right and wrong with the team when he hasn't got a clue, saying that he's your best manager ever and has won trophy's before and can do it again once he buys 2 quality center backs, Djourou is not Arsenal level.
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24-04-2011, 06:18 PM | #6 | ||
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Remembering Kerry
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Yes his best days with Arsenal are behind him.
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24-04-2011, 10:13 PM | #7 | ||
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Yes it is, he's taken then as far as he can. Time for someone else to manage Arsenal now.
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24-04-2011, 10:23 PM | #8 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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As much as I hate him as a person,his done a fantastic job at Arsenal that no Manager will ever recreate at the club again.
Also they are 3rd in the table,they did come runner up in the Carling cup,the only tournement they did **** on was the Champions league and even then they did face barcelona.
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24-04-2011, 10:45 PM | #9 | |||
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He should'nt go cuz the man is, frankly, a genius but he needs to look beyond his philosophy in order to gain greater success. Its obvious Arsenal have weak areas and his reluctance to to plug these areas even in the short term means that his team will never achieve the success they should.
Its obvious we need a keeper, one good centre half and a top striker to take the weight off Van persie and in stead of looking for established premiership players he rolls the dice and take a chance of inferior foreign player or players who need time to adapt to the premiership. At the end of ths season he needs to make some big decisions. We have a number of underperforming player - Rosicsky, Denilson,Bendtner to name a few. I dont know how Wenger can justify getting rid of the like of Freddie Ljungberg and Robert Pires - when neither wanted to leave - but he keeps faith with Denilson and Bendner. Its crazyness, particularly when you look at how well the likes of Ryan Giggs and Paul Shcoles are still performing for Man U. He seems to think that when a player reaches 30 then he's ready for the knackers yard, but what this team lacks is experience and leadership particualry when you look at the way we give away cheap goals and are unable to kill off games. He said after we won the cup in 2005 that he had a five year plan. Well, next year will be the sixth year of that plan and if we dont win anything then he needs to have a serious re-think
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25-04-2011, 10:58 AM | #10 | |||
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25-04-2011, 10:58 AM | #11 | |||
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25-04-2011, 11:00 AM | #12 | |||
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Just read on Twitter that before Wenger, Arsenal finished in the top 4 in 23 out of 92 seasons.
Under Wenger they've done it 14 times in 14 seasons. As much as I dislike the bloke, he's a good manager.
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03-05-2011, 01:23 AM | #13 | ||
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No he's a great manager, clubs go through times without winning..
Liverpool havent won in 5 years now no one talking about that and have never won the premier league. Man city 35 years? lol Wenger is smart. Chelsea united liverpool man city and even tottenham all have more outgoings that income. chelsea united and liverpool all -40m where arsenal made +35m.. When the debt is gone Arsenal will be top again.
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03-05-2011, 08:52 AM | #14 | ||
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For a fair while there from February it appeared that Arsenal were going to snatch a least the highest placed London club place,they have let that slip and I think it's time for him to go,
I agree with Jedward fever that he has in his time done a great job there but I think new thinking and a fresh,younger outlook is needed at the club now. Oh and new training to the players to stay on their feet and play football rather than duck and dive all the time. |
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15-05-2011, 04:10 PM | #15 | |||
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06-11-2014, 05:02 PM | #16 | |||
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He's done all he can, the end is near.
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06-11-2014, 05:06 PM | #17 | |||
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I heard a footballer say yesterday that getting into the Champ League is the same as winning a trophy
so perhaps his achievements need to be revalued? |
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06-11-2014, 05:09 PM | #18 | |||
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Coming 4th is the equivalent of winning the League to Arsene. Need some fresh ideas and bigger ambitions around the club.
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06-11-2014, 05:50 PM | #19 | |||
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He isn't doing great lately but every Arsenal fan needs to look at what happened to Utd after Ferguson left, it's unlikely that a new manager is going to come into a club that has been ran by the same guy for such a long time and match what he has been doing even in his recent seasons
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06-11-2014, 05:53 PM | #20 | |||
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I wouldn't expect a new manager to come in and take us a step further straight away but the foundations are there for us to challenge for the title and trophies which he refuses to build on. Its just his lack of tactics, man management and his stubbornness are getting him nowhere now.
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06-11-2014, 06:11 PM | #21 | |||
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I think there are a few managers who could match Wengers achievements in the last few years ie win no trophy but finish 4th,. I dont think we would suffer a slump like Man Utd cuz I dont think the expectations have been as high as Man U's recently. It is hilarious to see their fans all wide eyed about stunned at their past two seasons but they were the Champs when SAF retired we haven't been champs for over a decade and I doubt Wenger has what it take to win another championship for us. He needs to make a decision soon as I feel even he thinks he wont win another championship at Arsenal. Now I'm not saying this as some arrogant Arsenal fan who thinks we have the right to win the league but the club is so well run and so well off that everything is in place for Arsenal to be one of the top five clubs in Europe never mind the Premiership. I just dont think Wenger can take us to that position.
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06-11-2014, 06:19 PM | #22 | |||
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06-11-2014, 06:25 PM | #23 | |||
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06-11-2014, 06:43 PM | #24 | ||
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I stick by what I said sometime ago. I feel he should of gone years ago. He has been lagging behind the best for years now. Fergie moved with the times, he took on the challenge of Jose. Wenger just got further and further behind.
Every year all Arsenal ever seem to do in the Champions League is make up the numbers. You can predict every season how far they'll go. Another point is if you look at what Arsenal fans felt were wrong with the team three years ago. Whether it be on forums or on old talk shows on radio, those same calls and forum posts are still relevant today. Which is down right ridiculous. In pretty much all the big games he comes up short tactically. If I was an Arsenal fan and there was a Champions League semi final second leg away from home and you need a resulst... I wouldn't have any faith. Whereas a Jose, a Pep or a Ancelotti you'd have faith that they could go away from home and get you that result. We've seen Jose go to the Nou Camp, when Barcelona were at their best, wrongfully be reduced to ten men and manage to get through. Wenger would never achieve that. Nine years without a trophy was totally unacceptable. Money isn't needed to win trophies such as FA Cups and League Cups. It's not like in that time the Arsenal team has been crap. At one stage the team had Fabregas, Nasri and RVP. I really have no idea why any Arsenal fans still accept it, but they do. Maybe it's because they're young, but they seem to make out as though without Wenger they'd be nothing. As though he arrived in England and inherited a team in the bottom half of the table, a la Klopp and Dortmund. There's no mistaking he's had some fantastic times at Arsenal. The Invincibles, for me, is still the best title success in Premier League history. Even despite the whole 'they played for draws towards the end' that's thrown at that team, it went unbeaten in a whole season... which is fantastic. Thierry Henry being just another winger and then converted to a world class striker. One of the best players the Premier League will ever see. Arsenal's style of play as well. Basically, despite my Piers Morgan like rant, despite the fact I'm not even an Arsenal fan, his time has long been up for me. A team of Arsenal's stature should be doing better. Imagine if the likes of Pep Guardiola had come in say two years ago. Imagine where Arsenal would of been now. Edit: I should add, when I refer to Arsenal fans I'm not on about the ones here. I'm referring to the Twitter type that often defend everything. Last edited by Ryan57; 06-11-2014 at 06:55 PM. |
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Also, United aren't in decline (at least not yet). A decline isn't one season where you finish seventh. Post Busby is more along the lines of what a decline is. AC Milan likewise.
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