[Droopy]

I am no fan of Grace, but this is based on her personality not how she looks.

[kittykat321]

the title of this thread is so true,,, its pathetic that you are all argueing over wether grace is nice or not,,,

we realise everyone has there own opinions,so lets leave it now,,, its never going to end,,

[AdamArmand]

GRACE

Characteristics/symptoms of a sociopath

Central to understanding individuals diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder is that they appear to experience a limited range of human emotions; however this should be regarded critically due to current lack of exploring emotional response in detail even in animals. This can explain the lack of empathy for the suffering of others, since they cannot experience emotion associated with either empathy or suffering. Risk-seeking behavior and substance abuse may be attempts to escape feeling empty or emotionally void. The rage exhibited by psychopaths and the anxiety associated with certain types of antisocial personality disorder may represent the limit of emotion experienced, or there may be physiological responses without analogy to emotion experienced by others.

According to the older theory of Freudian psychoanalysis, a sociopath has a strong id and ego that overpowers the superego. The theory proposes that internalized morals of our unconscious mind are restricted from surfacing to the ego and consciousness. However, this explanation provides no insight into the cause or treatment of the problem.

A common misconception is that many of the individuals diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder can be found in prisons. Criminal activity does not automatically warrant a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, nor does a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder imply that a person is a criminal. It is hypothesized that many high achievers exhibit antisocial personality disorder characteristics. This, however, brings much criticism upon the diagnostic criteria specified for those exhibiting antisocial personality disorder and the PCL-R. Both of these tests depend upon the person in question being a criminal or having participated in criminal activities.

Research has shown that individuals with antisocial personality disorder are indifferent to the possibility of physical pain or many punishments, and show no indications that they experience fear when so threatened. This may explain their apparent disregard for the consequences of their actions, and their lack of empathy with the suffering of others. Although it is agreed upon by most psychiatrists that antisocial personality disorder is almost impossible to treat, there is some evidence that shows that they respond to impersonalized loss. [citation needed] One approach to explaining antisocial personality disorder behaviors is put forth by sociobiology, a science that attempts to understand and explain a wide variety of human behavior based on evolutionary biology. One route to doing so is by exploring evolutionarily stable strategies; that is, strategies that being successful will tend to be passed on to the next generation, thus becoming more common in the gene pool. For example, in one well-known 1995 paper by Linda Mealey, chronic antisocial/criminal behavior is explained as a combination of two such strategies.

[RAS]

Originally posted by jrc

No, I don't. I know her type really. I just find her really enjoyable to watch, she's funny the way she bitches about people, and she causes division in the house, which makes good TV. Your constant appearace remarks are sad.

Appearence is a massive part of the world, and anyone who denies it, is trully in denial.

[RAS]

Originally posted by xcharleyx

the fact that you use grace's word 'moose' makes me laugh
alot.

If i make people laugh, i can sleep well at night, whether your laughing at me or with me, its all the same to me, as long as your happy

[lily.]

Originally posted by AdamArmand
GRACE

Fock sake man.. I hope you used Copy & Paste... ....

[Diablo]

LOL I got all this the first time I said I hate Glyn... Now its the Grace haters turn.. LOL

[jrc]

Originally posted by RAS

Appearence is a massive part of the world, and anyone who denies it, is trully in denial.

I know it is a massive part of the world. Whether they should be is another thing.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by RAS

Appearence is a massive part of the world, and anyone who denies it, is trully in denial.

What has that got to do with it?

If you dislike grace then fine But it's all these comments on her looks that are pathetic. At least the reasons you dislike her are debatable, whilst the way someone looks is just subjective and will get someone nowhere.

[Smeggypants]

All silly immature comments about Grace's looks aside.....


I really can't believe people think Grace is a nice person.

[ferg_luvs_bb7]

Originally posted by RAS

Appearence is a massive part of the world, and anyone who denies it, is trully in denial.

SOOOO your saying your right because you dislike graces' appearance?

[RAS]

But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

[jrc]

Originally posted by Smeggypants
All silly immature comments about Grace's looks aside.....


I really can't believe people think Grace is a nice person.

Who has actually said that though?

[RAS]

Originally posted by ferg_luvs_bb7

SOOOO your saying your right because you dislike graces' appearance?

ummm did i say that?..............how about no......?

[ferg_luvs_bb7]

Originally posted by Smeggypants
All silly immature comments about Grace's looks aside.....


I really can't believe people think Grace is a nice person.

I think she has good deep down, and everyone bitches. She was entertaining, and did herself justice in her interview

[jrc]

Originally posted by RAS
But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

If that's your view, then you're incredibly shallow.

[Edwin]

Originally posted by RAS
But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

What are you on about?

[lily.]

Originally posted by jrc

Who has actually said that though?

Exactly. We aren't saying we want to be friends with her. We are saying we find her entertaining as a HM and would like to see her back in the house.

[ferg_luvs_bb7]

Originally posted by RAS
But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

no

[Edwin]

Originally posted by ferg_luvs_bb7

I think she has good deep down, and everyone bitches. She was entertaining, and did herself justice in her interview

I agree, she seemed like a nice person who was put in with the type of people she wouldn't normally mix with. Her comments were funny, but I doubt she truly hated ash or sam.

[xcharleyx]

Originally posted by RAS
But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

Riiigghhtt.
So say a really unwealthy person walks in, all scruffy and not well looking. I take it you won't give them a chance, even though they may have the best personality you've ever come accross.

[RAS]

lol, i have to just say, what a great thread, good to get the juices flowing, keeps you awake, we all say we like to watch a good argument or debate.

So why not enroll in one.

Its all good, no harm done, try to improve your argument skills.

We are all winners here!

Apart form Edwin he's a looser ( only joking, your a very good poster, and i have great respect for you, as a human being, and as a poster)

[lily.]

Originally posted by RAS
But it is, so face the facts and libe with it.

Apperaence is everything...well 99% anyway.

It's a good thing spelling isn't everything....

[ferg_luvs_bb7]

Originally posted by jrc

If that's your view, then you're incredibly shallow.

Ive seen a picture of him. Shallow is a horrible characteristic and im glad grace didnt have that

[Smeggypants]

Originally posted by jrc

Who has actually said that though?

Quite a few people tonight. Go and look through the Grace threads here and you'll see.