[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

be nice to people. if they can't appreciate that niceness or see the kindness as false, sod 'em to hell

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

be nice to people. if they can't appreciate that niceness or see the kindness as false, sod 'em to hell

see, I aspire to be nice but its just not my natural default setting. Then when I force it it feels false. Kinda like a photo smile.

plus I also have very low tolerance levels.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Zippy

see, I aspire to be nice but its just not my natural default setting. Then when I force it it feels false. Kinda like a photo smile.

plus I also have very low tolerance levels.

Oh comeon Zippy. Everyone can find that natural default niceness within them. Search deeper

[Harry!]

Absolutely No Requests - Because once you have done something you can't change it.

I do stand but the treat people how you want to be treated line as I was bullied in the past and do believe people should be nicer to one another.

[ElProximo]

Wow the depth of discourse and philosophy here. The average UK morality seems to have been reduced to:
I dunno. Be nice I guess?

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

[Kerry]

See both sides of things (not easy I know)

To, no matter what, tell my family I love them daily. I can NEVER let my daughter go to bed without a hug and me telling her that. Same when she heads off to school. Don't give a sh!t how sappy that sounds

[Z]

Originally Posted by happyland

This is my moral code..

Spoiler:

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.


With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

I really love this Lee, where is it from? Good philosophy!!

[joeysteele]

Reach out to other people,those I know and don't know and help them when and if you can.
We journey life together, if someone's really struggling help carry their load with them.

[seanraff07]

Be yourself, unless your a wanker.

[Livia]

I try never to say anything behind anyone's back that I'm not willing to say to their face.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I really love this Lee, where is it from? Good philosophy!!

It's called Desiderata and it was written by Max Herman in the 20s. Hippies in the 70s made it popular and used to hand it out in posters form. I have it framed in ny hall and read it almost every day.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Wow the depth of discourse and philosophy here. The average UK morality seems to have been reduced to:
I dunno. Be nice I guess?

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

And I suppose yours is the Bible?

[BB_Eye]

I find it hard to deduce universal moral truths, but I act as if they did exist. The same goes for free will. I suppose you might call it faith.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by InOne

And I suppose yours is the Bible?

I have to defend El Proximo on this point actually.

It's too often taken for granted what's morally good and morally bad. The British mentality on these things is that values are a thing of common sense, when in actual fact it is very much relative to culture and conditioning and prone to change over time. This isn't to we shouldn't treat others kindly, but that it's a mistake to think of it as a spontaneous human inclination. Using ourselves as the measure of values is not enough.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by InOne

And I suppose yours is the Bible?

It is yours.
It's why you believe that helping the homeless is 'morally good'. It's why you think equality is 'a good thing' to aim for.
It's why you think poor people ought to have social services.

These are things you not only accept as 'moral codes' but you don't even question them. It's nearly 'inherent' via your culture and upbringing,
and,
so much that you haven't even questioned them. Of course they are good! right?
You are probably scoffing in disbelief that I'm even talking about these as being questionable!
You have these 'moral presumptions' because of the Bible. You enjoy the benefits they bring but want to disassociate them from the source. Joker face is on you after all.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I have to defend El Proximo on this point actually.

It's too often taken for granted what's morally good and morally bad. The British mentality on these things is that values are a thing of common sense, when in actual fact it is very much relative to culture and conditioning and prone to change over time. This isn't to we shouldn't treat others kindly, but that it's a mistake to think of it as a spontaneous human inclination. Using ourselves as the measure of values is not enough.

It's a very tricky one really. I can see what you mean but I still don't think people get a deep sense of morality from that. Comes from inside

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

It is yours.
It's why you believe that helping the homeless is 'morally good'. It's why you think equality is 'a good thing' to aim for.
It's why you think poor people ought to have social services.

These are things you not only accept as 'moral codes' but you don't even question them. It's nearly 'inherent' via your culture and upbringing,
and,
so much that you haven't even questioned them. Of course they are good! right?
You are probably scoffing in disbelief that I'm even talking about these as being questionable!
You have these 'moral presumptions' because of the Bible. You enjoy the benefits they bring but want to disassociate them from the source. Joker face is on you after all.

Is it? Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...

[Vicky.]

Meh. I tried the treat others the way you want to be treated thing, and got **** on from a great height repeatedly. So now its pretty much do whatever the hell you like and screw what others think :/ Be nice and people walk all over you IMO, so why bother.

I agree with livias post though, I would never say something behind someones back that I wouldnt/havent said to their faces.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Is it?

Yes, it is.

Because everything you said there doesn't have anything to do with that...

Yes it does.

Now you know.

[Benjamin]

Respect those that respect you and vice versa.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Respect those that respect you and vice versa.

Why should you?
What would make it morally 'wrong' or 'right' and by what standard?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yes, it is.



Yes it does.

Now you know.

Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.

[Shasown]

If you cant pot the pink, pot the brown, any holes a goal.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shasown

If you cant pot the pink, pot the brown, any holes a goal.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well the Bible is a pretty awful place to get your morals from if you go by it wholeheartedly. No doubt you pick and choose the "nice" bits like many others.

Actually, idiotic half-witted 'atheist' websites are a pretty awful place to get your information from.

But let's save time and get to the heart of it:
By what standard do you judge some Jewish Laws as 'awful' and others as 'nice' anyways?
What standard of morality are you using to make those judgments?