[Ammi]

Oops I just learnt how to do the multi quote thing and now I'm doing it when I don't mean to, I was replying to Livia. (Sorry Arista I am aware this is a serious debate thread, won't happen again)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Conor

Defining evil depends on where you are brought up. Extremist Muslims see the West as Evil, but in the US and A, who is the villain?.. The IRA thinks the UDA are evil whilst they are fighting for a cause and vice versa... Super Christians see gays as being evil. Gays see bigoted super Christians as being evil. I seriously believe power corrupts any man. Look at Hitler. He was a lowly artist walking the streets of Vienna with little political intention. He wasn't even an anti-semite. However within a few decades he became a major world player. The more powerful he got ,the more insanely inhumane he became. Same with Stalin and I'm sure a whole lot more dictators. I suppose in summary I'm saying that it's a whole load of external factors and beliefs that determine someone's 'evil factor' and that we are initially here with good intentions- and even then it still isn't a clear area.

Anyways, the world has progressed far beyond even how it used to be. The UK had concentration camps in Asia not even 200 years ago ffs. Europe is at peace. Yugoslavia and the USSR have fallen, Ireland has regained peace and war is not being fought in Europe. Sure across the rest of the world there are still serious security problems. tbh, does anyone really think Iran or NoKo are gonna send a couple of nukes across the Atlantic to NYC. As someone mentioned already, young people today and people in general are far more forward thinking and accepting than they once would have been. Racists, bigots and all that are on the way towards the out door. Progress and history show that good always overcomes evil in the long run, so no, I don't think we are living in an evil place, but nor is it good.

/waffle.

Great post as you say if you only want to see evil people and evil deeds then they are there today as they always have been and always will be. When my grandparents generation would say things like 'oh the world was a better place than it is today, we had such a sense of community', I would think but you were at war and had Hitler and concentration camps and we don't so how could it possibly have been a better place. Yes there are wars and always will be somewhere in the world but I agree with you on the whole we are going forward all the time. We will never have the perfect world, so we need to make the most of what we've got

[Shasown]

Good and evil are very subjective terms.

Man is simply an animal. More evolved than most of the other animals you could argue but still an animal nonetheless.

Regardless how high humanity lifts itself from its baser emotions, greed, envy, and other corruptions will always appear in one form or another. But hopefully these aberrations will occur or be allowed to occur less and less frequently in the future.

Slowly slowly catchee monkey.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Man is simply an animal. More evolved than most of the other animals you could argue but still an animal nonetheless.

Regardless how high humanity lifts itself from its baser emotions, greed, envy, and other corruptions will always appear in one form or another. But hopefully these aberrations will occur or be allowed to occur less and less frequently in the future.

Slowly slowly catchee monkey.

"Good and evil are very subjective terms."


You mean Both the Same
Don't You?

[lostalex]

hmm, well i don't like talking about the world as some kind of collective unit.

America/ Ireland/ UK/ Australia/ Canada/ NZ = Good

Rest of the world = Evil

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

"Good and evil are very subjective terms."


You mean Both the Same
Don't You?

That's obviously propaganda. If that was actually a US bomb, they would have spelled it CENTER, not centRE.

[Grimnir]

the world is full of nasty selfish people

they don't care about others or society or the planet or anything

all they care about themselves

dirty bastards, there is no hope for humanity