[arista]

Just reported on Radio 5.


Spain knows it will not solve the there Jobs market,
but its a start.


More Utter Proof that the €uro does not work
and that Europe is not United on Import Workers.



Europe is a Trading Place
but its everyone for themselves.
No longer a United Fecking Europe,
Fact

[LeatherTrumpet]

Europe is a silly idea

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

Just reported on Radio 5.


Spain knows it will not solve the there Jobs market,
but its a start.


More Utter Proof that the €uro does not work
and that Europe is not United on Import Workers.



Europe is a Trading Place
but its everyone for themselves.
No longer a United Fecking Europe,
Fact

you should be a MP

[Livia]

Who's going to choose who we exclude? And if we start excluding migrant workers, who's going to pick fruit on our farms for less than the minimum wage? A Brit? If we decide we're going to exclude migrant workers, how will the NHS survive? And the care industry? Unless you're going to force lazy British benefit claimants to take a low-paid job, we're better off letting in people willing to do the work.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Who's going to choose who we exclude? And if we start excluding migrant workers, who's going to pick fruit on our farms for less than the minimum wage? A Brit? If we decide we're going to exclude migrant workers, how will the NHS survive? And the care industry? Unless you're going to force lazy British benefit claimants to take a low-paid job, we're better off letting in people willing to do the work.

Sure Good Points
we have to import hard workers for some jobs.


But Spain doing this
is like breaking the Shell of Europe.

[LeatherTrumpet]

The market dictates workforce flow. hard for countries who take part in the market to stop this.

market usually wins

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Who's going to choose who we exclude? And if we start excluding migrant workers, who's going to pick fruit on our farms for less than the minimum wage? A Brit? If we decide we're going to exclude migrant workers, how will the NHS survive? And the care industry? Unless you're going to force lazy British benefit claimants to take a low-paid job, we're better off letting in people willing to do the work.

Agreed again, the other factor is force people to do jobs they neither want or are prepared to do, that will be a nightmare for their bosses.
Oh they will likely turn up but will any real work get done,more to the point properly too,or will it be in the end more costly to the employers than them not being forced there in the first place.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Its about profit. companies need to cut costs and employees are big cost. someone tells them they can get folk who will work for a lot lot less and they say yes. Its more to do with the fact that foreign workers will work for very low wages than it is that folk here dont want to do crap jobs.

once the euro workers live here for a bit they often think "whooooa, this job and pay stink and then try and get a better job"

It is too simplistic to say that our workers wont do crap jobs, they will but for wages that reflect life in the UK not wages that reflect life in Romania.

[Livia]

Migrant workers in the UK are usually working in fields that have always been low paid - care, agriculture, cleaning, catering, unskilled manufacturing - but areas where British people once worked. They don't have to now, they can get benefits and tax credits and housing benefit and family allowance and all kinds of super-duper benefits that mean it's not worth their while getting of their ar5es.

[arista]

This is Not a UK Rule


This is Spain
maybe France will follow?