[Red Moon]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The live feed infrastructure was provided by an outsourced company and had an uptake of 86,000 people which generated an income of over £1 million and was confirmed by channel 4 to have generated a profit.

Well may be the don't feel they will get the uptake that Channel 4 got in the past and the profit levels were low. I guess we will never know unless they tell us straight, but like you said:

Originally Posted by bobnot

If you phone C5 and ask them they will tell you that its because they want to take the show in a different direction and that doesnt include a live feed.

Clearly that is up to them, but I think we are all forgetting that there would have been no Big Brother on UK television at the moment if it wasn't for Channel 5. They brought the rights to air the show and the right to put there stamp on it. Without them it just wouldn't exist but as a memory.

Originally Posted by bobnot

So from what we have seen so far that direction must mean having meetings with the housemates and guiding them into what they want to happen.

Do we have evidence of there being meeting as such where the producers tell them what to do? There is a lot of talk about scripting going on which the follow up show was making fun of the other night and rightly so. I don't think they would script it. One of the Celebrities would spill the beans as soon as they got out of the house for the cash and press coverage. It just not going to happen.

Originally Posted by bobnot

Thats about as far from the spirit of big brother that you can get its trashy and false.

Any messing with the show is going to upset the BB purists but it has changed year in and year out. It is nothing like the show that it was when it started that was billed as a human experiment. It is much more of a game show by the time it ended on Channel 4, with house mates being players rather subjects. May be Channel 5 are just taking that side of it a bit further than Channel 4 did.

The show has to keep developing or it will become stale and lifeless as a format and people will turn off.

Originally Posted by bobnot

Im not revelling in the state of the show i feel gutted.

I can understand how many people feel gutted, and how not having a live feed affects the forum and their enjoyment of the show, but if it not going to happen it is no good going on and on about it. You can only do what you can done and if Channel 5 don't want it you will never get it. You can't force their hand.

If 86,000 people turn off so what, that still leaves them 2.3 million or so viewers.

They will have done enough market research to know the changes won't have a massive effect on the audience numbers and the production company won't let them do to much that affects the ratings and possibility of having their contract renewed in two years time.

I keep thinking they are moving the show towards the "get me out of here" style of programming with the house mates commenting on the tasks etc with Big Brother as the interviewer, not sure if I like it yet, but I willing to live with it and have Big Brother on the TV again.

[billy123]

Moon 86,000 viewers were the subscriber numbers that the live feed attracted and were clearly stated to show that your claim of lack of live feed was financially motivated wasnt right im not looking to disagree with you just stating a fact.
So what if 86k turn off they will still have 2.3million is just a daft thing to say i get the overly defensive thing i really do but ???????????

Im not one to pick posts apart sentence by sentence and ignore the context but you also conveniently ignored the origin of the wedding dress.

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[Red Moon]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Moon 86,000 viewers were the subscriber numbers that the live feed attracted and were clearly stated to show that your claim of lack of live feed was financially motivated wasnt right im not looking to disagree with you just stating a fact.
So what if 86k turn off they will still have 2.3million is just a daft thing to say i get the overly defensive thing i really do but ???????????

Im not one to pick posts apart sentence by sentence and ignore the context but you also conveniently ignored the origin of the wedding dress.

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I was just making it easier to follow, and I'm sorry if you felt I was picking on your post by quoting it in that way.

My thinking goes along lines that maybe they don''t think they will get similar numbers, and they will historical trend data on the live feed take up. If general audience numbers has fallen over the years it would be safe to conclude that is likely that so as the number of subscribers to the live feed. We don't know what the profit level is like and we don't know what the break even point is, in terms of subscriber numbers.

We are all guessing in the dark, however I concede their might be a profit to be made, but as you said channel 5 wants to make the show there own and that doesn't include a live feed from what you have been told so it is academic. They are clearly happy with the format they have decided to adopt and we can't do much about it.

I think it is foolish that a minority of people think they have power over television companies and that voting with their feet, as people have said they will do on here and other forums, will really affect what the mainstream viewers watch.

Yes, they are right to put their view and in this case they have a good point, but at the end of the day they are the ones broadcasting and running the show. If they say no that is that.

Yes we can be disappointed in the direction the company is going with the show but that is up to them. They are the ones that commissioned the series.

I would like to see a live feed but if that is not going to happen we can either moan about it or just get on with enjoying what we have. I hope the channel changes its mind. I think if there is a profit to be made they should go for it.

[seanraff07]

****e, utter ****e.

I'll watch on as BB quickly vanishes into extinction, hope Channel 5 learn their lesson, FFS all they show during the night on 5* is teleshopping, surely BB Live is better than that?