[Visage]

Just to explain a little further where my post was coming from. I am no expert on viewing figures, I really don't understand how viewers are calculated by surveys. I'm going by experience as I was once asked to take part in this survey.

My original post was that I believe people's viewing habits have changed over the years. Before technology such as on-line viewing and Sky+ was available, I assumed most people watched shows when they originally aired. I know I did and most of my family and friends did.

I have asked if online, catch-up and Sky + were included in the ratings and on many occasions I was informed they were not included.

Originally Posted by bobnot

What in the living hell have audience figures from 20 years ago got to do with the price of fish?

Living hell..?
Price of fish..?

While that statement might make you feel better I was genuinely asking a question over how (before Sky+ etc) the ratings were around the 19 million mark. I thought (or was hoping) you might have had another explanation for this decline.

Originally Posted by bobnot

The truth is nearly 80% of the audience have vanished in just over a month.
(cbb premiered with 5.1 million)

That's an interesting comment, do you have a link where I could view these statistics. Again I lack knowledge on this or where to begin looking, so a link would prove useful.

Originally Posted by bobnot

P.S. bb's audience share will suffer further in the officials due to their being a lack of +1 so let go of that little hope.

What is this +1 you speak of, is it the channel plus one hour ? If so was this available for the first week of BB if not, how will it suffer without it ?

Originally Posted by bobnot

Name another show that has flopped so badly to lose nearly 80% of its audience in such a short time.

I can't I was basing my original post on what I had seen over the last couple of decades.

Originally Posted by bobnot

Im done with this thread the facts speak for themselves burying your head in the sand doesnt help anyone especially not c5 or bb.

That's a shame I was hoping you may have educated me more on the subject.

Originally Posted by bobnot

This seems relevant

To who ? Are you implying I'm burying my head in the sand over my actual knowledge on the topic ? Because I'm far from doing that, where would that get me ?

[Jake.]

They havent been taken into account yet :/ once an episode is aired, the official figures are released 2 weeks later.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by JH95

They havent been taken into account yet :/ once an episode is aired, the official figures are released 2 weeks later.

So are you saying that the ratings havent fallen because its crap?.
Whether you look at overnights or officials its all relative it wont change the audience share.
The fact is people have turned off because they dont like what C5 have done it is ruined live with it! im hanging in and still putting up with it and that will account for a lot of its audience as well long term fans that arent happy but are trying to stick with it.

[Raven]

The ratings speak for themselves.... from the people who started watching, over a third haven't seen anything interesting enough to keep watching. Crud about the figures not reflecting the quality is blinkered and denying the reality that dispite the person who said that maybe enjoying it, most are not else the figures would be at least staying the same if not gradulaly growing with people finding it interesting enough to stick with.

[Jake.]

In MY OPINION, this is the best Big Brother in years, sure the ratings are crap for Big Brother but when you look at the rest of Channel 5's ratings then its not too bad

[starry]

Probably the worst set of HMs since the 8th series. Belo and Samanda would have fitted perfectly into this lot. As the 8th series showed most people want to watch HMs who they can feel at least some affinity with rather than just laugh at. CH5 have gone backwards to a failed approach.

[Jake.]

Officially CBB8 done well, infact some nights there were 400 k more viewers than the overnights