[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by SoBig

No way in hell is Ethan in the top 20. Replace him with Terry Deitz or Lex. Richard Hatch is way too high. Same with Sandra. Overall the list isn't bad. Just the order that they are in is the problem.

: joker: at Terry even being considered top 20, that such a joke. Lex definitely isn't top 20 either. Here's how I would rank them...

1. JT
2. Tina
3. Brian
4. Richard
5. Todd
6. Tom
7. Danni
8. Earl
9. Chris
10. Cirie
11. Sandra
12. Rob
13. Parvati
14. Natalie
15. Yul
16. Amber
17. Stephen
18. Vecepia
19. Yau Man
20. Ethan

Originally Posted by SoBig

Parvati as the best ever? No way. She was never the best player in any of her seasons. In the Cook Islands, Yul and Ozzy were clearly on another level. In Fans Vs Favorites, Cirie was by far the best player. She dominated from start to finish. If they had kept it as a final 3 instead of a final 2, Cirie would have won hands down. In Panama, Cirie would have won if she knew how to make a freaking fire. Cirie was the best player in 2 seasons. Pavati's best case for being the best player was in Heroes Vs Villians, but I still give Russell the edge because he controlled who was voted out and who was not. Parvati only made it far when she had support from other great players(FvF Amanda and Cirie, HvV Russell).

I don't know why you think Ozzy was some great player who was "clearly" on another level. But in terms of people who played better than Parvati in Cook Islands, I would say Yul, Candice, Ozzy, Becky, and Adam in that order. Micronesia, Cirie was better than Parvati. And I don't know why you think Russell was that amazing in Heroes vs. Villains either. I'd say he was the worst player of the final six, but Colby and Rupert weren't much better. Jerri, Parvati, and Sandra, though, were definitely better.

Originally Posted by SoBig

Off topic. In Heroes Vs Villains why were Stephanie, Candice and Cirie on the Heroes side? Did they forget how Stephanie played in Guatemala? She backstabbed and lied to EVERYONE that was in her alliance. She was also very arrogant.

Candice flipped over to the other tribe the first chance she got. Betrayed everyone in her alliance.

Cirie was the most cut throat person in Fans Vs Favorites. She was the mastermind behind every single plan in the women's alliance. She was just as much as a "Villain" as Pavatti was.

Because of editing. It's really not that complicated. Yes, they did forget how Stephenie played in Guatemala, because they choose to ignore that season completely. She's better remembered as the heroine in Palau. Candice's is contradictory. Even though Yul/Ozzy/Becky/Sundra got a very forced and fraudulent positive edit, Probst said that Candice's mutiny was heroic because she was returning to her allies. And then Cirie is again about editing, just like Stephenie. Parvati embraces her cutthroat "black widow" style and gets a negative edit, Cirie is bubbly and giggles a lot, she gets a positive edit.