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MachoPoodle · 08-11-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think you will find that almost 70% of people on here disagree with you both - looking at the poll stats.

And this matters why? There are a lot of Aaron fans on here, and only a handful seem to be able to be critical of anything he does ever. The same results with more of the level headed Aaronites and it'd be somewhat more relevant. I know there are some that go overboard in findng faults with him as well, but there's so few of them it doesn't really leave a ripple. I don't care how many disagrees, especially not in such a small pond as an online forum. It's not a very reasonable basis for changing one's opinion in a matter. Just completely fail to see what your above statement added to the discussion.

MachoPoodle · 08-11-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by twistedsista

With Aaron 100% of the way - as are most of the general public.

And that's not in any way a sweeping assumption, you think? What do you base this on?

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

And this matters why? There are a lot of Aaron fans on here, and only a handful seem to be able to be critical of anything he does ever. The same results with more of the level headed Aaronites and it'd be somewhat more relevant. I know there are some that go overboard in findng faults with him as well, but there's so few of them it doesn't really leave a ripple. I don't care how many disagrees, especially not in such a small pond as an online forum. It's not a very reasonable basis for changing one's opinion in a matter. Just completely fail to see what your above statement added to the discussion.

There are a lot of Aaron supporters - who were here, posting on this forum, long before BB12 started. It's not as though there was suddenly a call from of wild, through webland, asking Aaron supporters to find their way to Tibbs you know!

Many of us were already here, before Aaron was even a twinkle in BB12's eye.

I think you just lost your point.

Kazanne · 08-11-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Aaron was 100% in the right ,he refuses to asslick for votes ,thats what makes him the only WORTHY winner,it showed as clear as day the reason behind doing it when the village idiot repeated over and over £500

Not a very good 'GAME' he's playing is it Chuff?otherwise he would have gone along with that to look good.

Niamh. · 08-11-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Well maybe not trust issues exactly but being hesitant to trust them. And I think it was a spur of the moment kind of thing, I think Jay and Louise probably have few responsibilities in life and haven't had to be as careful with money as someone like Aaron who's been married, separated, had a kid etc. so they just suddenly saw they had a free 10k and thought "why not?"

I take your point on that, I do think that they handled it badly though, they really should have went up to him and said : look we really want to do this, If you want to be involved we're going to tell BB now. Atleast if Aaron had declined then he would be prepared for the gifts arriving and not feel like such a lemon

MachoPoodle · 08-11-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

There are a lot of Aaron supporters - who were here, posting on this forum, long before BB12 started. It's not as though there was suddenly a call from of wild, through webland, asking Aaron supporters to find their way to Tibbs you know!

Many of us were already here, before Aaron was even a twinkle in BB12's eye.

I think you just lost your point.

I think it's more a matter of you not getting what my point was.

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

I think it's more a matter of you not getting what my point was.

Nah, I have to say: that my opinion is: you didn't have a point.

I see the scores are still getting higher.

That call of the wild seems to be gathering momentum eh!

MachoPoodle · 08-11-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Nah, I have to say: that my opinion is: you didn't have a point.

I see the scores are still getting higher.

That call of the wild seems to be gathering momentum eh!

*shakes head* This is getting silly. Can't you at least try to discuss w/o resorting to nonsense? Or are the laughing smileys your wolf pack?

Wheazy04 · 08-11-2011, 03:43 PM

I'm on Aaron's side as I have been in a similar postion. Only it was we promised to only spend a £30 on a gift for a friend and a few of my friends went behind my back and spent over £100 each on this other friend and I know its not about how much you spend but you kinda look like a miser and a scrooge when someone does this!!! So I can kinda see where Aaron is coming from, However I didn't strop with the people or shouted about it I just felt a little upset. At the same time my situation wasn't in the BB house and I didn't only just know the person. I personally think Louise is the most sly one in this situation rather than Jay... the reason for this Jay didn't announce how much the presents were and does seem to be sorry about not clueing Aaron in on the change of mind!!!

Cromwell1900 · 08-11-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid*

And there was me thinking that the entire concept of Big Brother comes off the back of a SOCIAL experiment.

Silly me.

Your thinking of BB in it's first few years when it was a Social experiment. Where "playing the game" as Nick Bateman did was seen as villany. Things have changed more is the pity imo.

We are all aware this year in particular folk defend Hm's actions not in the context of normal social situations, but by the notion "It's a game" Are you declaring you view BB as a Social Experiment or as a Game Show?

Anton tries to get Aaron out - his fans say so what it's a game
Aaron manipulates people to nom a certain way - so what it's a game

Before anyone can expect Jay to treat Aaron with Social grace's you need to ask does Jay think Aaron is "gaming" if Yes then there is no Social Obligation to inform Aaron of anything, if No then the Social Obligation stands imo. The reason i say that is the decision to say no, i viewed as a joint decision made by all three.

The problem with the whole concept of BB being viewed as a game show, is someone will justify a behavior that they like as simply being part of the game, and then criticize a behavior they don't like as a social/morale Rule Brake. Present-gate highlights, and nutshells this quite vividly imo.

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

*shakes head* This is getting silly. Can't you at least try to discuss w/o resorting to nonsense? Or are the laughing smileys your wolf pack?

I'll reply how I feel, as long as I don't resort to insulting members. That's kinda how the forum trundles along.

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Your thinking of BB in it's first few years when it was a Social experiment. Where "playing the game" as Nick Bateman did was seen as villany. Things have changed more is the pity imo.

We are all aware this year in particular folk defend Hm's actions not in the context of normal social situations, but by the notion "It's a game" Are you declaring you view BB as a Social Experiment or as a Game Show?

Anton tries to get Aaron out - his fans say so what it's a game
Aaron manipulates people to nom a certain way - so what it's a game

Before anyone can expect Jay to treat Aaron with Social grace's you need to ask does Jay think Aaron is "gaming" if Yes then there is no Social Obligation to inform Aaron of anything, if No then the Social Obligation stands imo. The reason i say that is the decision to say no, i viewed as a joint decision made by all three.

The problem with the whole concept of BB being viewed as a game show, is someone will justify a behavior that they like as simply being part of the game, and then criticize a behavior they don't like as a social/morale Rule Brake. Present-gate highlights, and nutshells this quite vividly imo.

it still is very much a social concept. Otherwise it would defeat the purpose of housemates living in such confined quarters, and placed in such dilemmas which challenge social norms and socially accepted behaviourss. Game or not, all of that still remains.

Dastardley · 08-11-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45

Aaron all the way!!!!

Everything he said about the whole debarcle was spot-on.
You could just see the realization appearing (very slowly) on Jay and Louise's faces when it was sinking in that Aaron had figured them out 100%.

Louise even said to Alex when her and Tom came back from the diary room "did they say that it was really nice of us to spend £500 on presents for you and Tom Alex ?"

So bloody transparent!!!!

My thoughts exactly...Well said!

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 07:02 PM

Nice to see the Poll is still gaining in the right direction: sitting at just over 72% with 162 / 49/ 23.

Good stuff folks!

Dastardley · 08-11-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheazy04

I'm on Aaron's side as I have been in a similar postion. Only it was we promised to only spend a £30 on a gift for a friend and a few of my friends went behind my back and spent over £100 each on this other friend and I know its not about how much you spend but you kinda look like a miser and a scrooge when someone does this!!! So I can kinda see where Aaron is coming from, However I didn't strop with the people or shouted about it I just felt a little upset. At the same time my situation wasn't in the BB house and I didn't only just know the person. I personally think Louise is the most sly one in this situation rather than Jay... the reason for this Jay didn't announce how much the presents were and does seem to be sorry about not clueing Aaron in on the change of mind!!!

The only thing Jay is sorry about is the fact that Aaron saw right through his and louise's 'presents for votes' scheme and stated so publicly for the viewers to hear.....The look on Jay's face said it all...when he realised how he and Louise would look to the public after Aaron's pointed it out to him.

sandra floyd · 08-11-2011, 07:07 PM

you are so right I agree with you, Aaron is a tiresome little weasel!!

sandra floyd · 08-11-2011, 07:09 PM

why do you defend this awful weasel, Aaron all the time, He's odious!!

sandra floyd · 08-11-2011, 07:10 PM

rubbish

Vicky. · 08-11-2011, 07:12 PM

Can I just add that in no way did Aaron wreck the party

Alex and Tom werent even bothered about Aaron being off on his own, and I would think Jays big blowup in FRONT of them caused more of an atmosphere than Aaron having a little sulk in another room.

Also what the HLs failed to show was Aaron getting involved in the party, having a dance, and having fun.

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sandra floyd

rubbish

Are you referring to your last two posts before this post above?

If so, I might just agree with you.

Pyramid* · 08-11-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Can I just add that in no way did Aaron wreck the party

Alex and Tom werent even bothered about Aaron being off on his own, and I would think Jays big blowup in FRONT of them caused more of an atmosphere than Aaron having a little sulk in another room.

Also what the HLs failed to show was Aaron getting involved in the party, having a dance, and having fun.

How right you are. How embarrassing for Alex and Tom - so much for Jay not wanting to ruin their birthday (as he said in the bedroom earlier on - didn't he say, "I'll tell yaaz the morra like, i'll not ruin yaar biifffday like"

typical hypocritical Jay though: says one thing, does another. he's been like that for weeks....no change there then eh!