[InOne]

Originally Posted by spintronic

Nope.

You know it's true.

[neil&tracey]

Originally Posted by Locke.

It was all Frankie's fault.

Are you real

What I have seen he seems to be genuine. The twins (Hefner Regects) money money money spoilt brats. Can't make it USA so lets try here and insult us. TWINS TO GO SUE US IF YOU DARE

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by neil&tracey

Are you real

What I have seen he seems to be genuine. The twins (Hefner Regects) money money money spoilt brats. Can't make it USA so lets try here and insult us. TWINS TO GO SUE US IF YOU DARE

I may counter them idiots.

WHO THE ****** DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?

[joeysteele]

I don't see where he fuelled it, it had got out of control by the time he got involved and all he said was calm down in the main, he agreed further as to things Denise later pointed out to Nicola and said his piece to her face, not behind her back.

What he didn't like was more than one person yelling and getting at Denise, now I don't care for Denise but he has been close to her in the house since the first week really,so like any of us who had got close to someone who was seemingly being attacked on all sides that we liked, he gave his support to her.

That is not fuelling things it is being a decent and supportive human being to another,whether he is misguided in his support for Denise is another matter but in the house he doesn't see himself as being misguided as to her so stands up for her and reinforces the points he knows are right that she made,especially as to Nicola.

Nothing at all was his fault anymore than it was Michaels or anyone elses who chose to try to chip in on it too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't see where he fuelled it, it had got out of control by the time he got involved and all he said was calm down in the main, he agreed further as to things Denise later pointed out to Nicola and said his piece to her face, not behind her back.

What he didn't like was more than one person yelling and getting at Denise, now I don't care for Denise but he has been close to her in the house since the first week really,so like any of us who had got close to someone who was seemingly being attacked on all sides that we liked, he gave his support to her.

That is not fuelling things it is being a decent and supportive human being to another,whether he is misguided in his support for Denise is another matter but in the house he doesn't see himself as being misguided as to her so stands up for her and reinforces the points he knows are right that she made,especially as to Nicola.

Nothing at all was his fault anymore than it was Michaels or anyone elses who chose to try to chip in on it too.

Great post Joey,spot on again.xx

[InOne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't see where he fuelled it, it had got out of control by the time he got involved and all he said was calm down in the main, he agreed further as to things Denise later pointed out to Nicola and said his piece to her face, not behind her back.

What he didn't like was more than one person yelling and getting at Denise, now I don't care for Denise but he has been close to her in the house since the first week really,so like any of us who had got close to someone who was seemingly being attacked on all sides that we liked, he gave his support to her.

That is not fuelling things it is being a decent and supportive human being to another,whether he is misguided in his support for Denise is another matter but in the house he doesn't see himself as being misguided as to her so stands up for her and reinforces the points he knows are right that she made,especially as to Nicola.

Nothing at all was his fault anymore than it was Michaels or anyone elses who chose to try to chip in on it too.

It may seem that way on the surface. But it was all aimed to wind the twins up more. He even said it when they were in the DR. He has a massive problem with them, and this was the perfect time to use it to stick the knife in. He thought he'd so for the hero approach, but was quickly shut down and pretty much couldn't say much after that. Even the HM's wondered why he was talking.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, -and I'm saying this as a fan of the twins- I think if Nicola hadn't butted in and made it her argument it could have been sorted out better. Nicola made everything 1000 times worse imo and made it look like Denise was being ganged up on.

Having said that I would have been livid if she'd done what she did to Karissa to me.

But denise made it worse by bringing up the letters.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Great post Joey,spot on again.xx

God, not this nonsense again

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yet he still felt the need to get involved in every bit of the argument...

He didnt 'feel the need' as you put it.... the twin was looking for support and 'felt the need' to tell Frankie and Romeo...but didnt like it when they didnt agree.... She bought them into 'her fight'.....

[vortex]

Nobody should have interfered, this was an issue between Karissa and Denise, the other housemates getting involved just made everything worse.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He didnt 'feel the need' as you put it.... the twin was looking for support and 'felt the need' to tell Frankie and Romeo...but didnt like it when they didnt agree.... She bought them into 'her fight'.....

Yeah but after that, in the living room... She was venting in the garden and he thought he'd try be hero in the living room.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by neil&tracey

Are you real

What I have seen he seems to be genuine. The twins (Hefner Regects) money money money spoilt brats. Can't make it USA so lets try here and insult us. TWINS TO GO SUE US IF YOU DARE

Think you must have been watching a different show

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by InOne

Frankie was just scared he'd get destroyed again

Are you for real?????

[InOne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Are you for real?????

He certainly shut it the first time he tried

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by InOne

It may seem that way on the surface. But it was all aimed to wind the twins up more. He even said it when they were in the DR. He has a massive problem with them, and this was the perfect time to use it to stick the knife in. He thought he'd so for the hero approach, but was quickly shut down and pretty much couldn't say much after that. Even the HM's wondered why he was talking.

I always hate disagreeing with you InOne,because you are near usually always right.
Yes, he has his own issues with them too I agree but from what I have seen of the Twins it takes very little to wind them up anyway although they expect all to go along with them.

He isn't confrontational really and that has been shown in abundance since he went in the house, I really believed I would massively dislike him after X Factor but in CBB he has completely changed my opinion of him,he hasn't as yet put one foot wrong in the house in my view and he has been a really good 'and' consistently good housemate all through and a team player too, which I admire in people.

[Jack_]

If Frankie was the cause of the argument, then we have a lot to thank him for.

I personally think he was, however odd it may be, the voice of reason during the argument.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I always hate disagreeing with you InOne,because you are near usually always right.
Yes, he has his own issues with them too I agree but from what I have seen of the Twins it takes very little to wind them up anyway although they expect all to go along with them.

He isn't confrontational really and that has been shown in abundance since he went in the house, I really believed I would massively dislike him after X Factor but in CBB he has completely changed my opinion of him,he hasn't as yet put one foot wrong in the house in my view and he has been a really good 'and' consistently good housemate all through and a team player too, which I admire in people.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. We clearly saw it from different perspectives. One bonus of the night though was that Frankie was finally given a warning for his pervy behaviour.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by InOne

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. We clearly saw it from different perspectives. One bonus of the night though was that Frankie was finally given a warning for his pervy behaviour.

Probably done just to satisfy the Twins after threatening to sue BB for things unfortunately.

I agree to disagree totally but the one who really needed the warning for pervy behaviour was Kirk when he was in the house so in my view it is rather lame of BB to single Frankie out at this late stage.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Probably done just to satisfy the Twins after threatening to sue BB for things unfortunately.

I agree to disagree totally but the one who really needed the warning for pervy behaviour was Kirk when he was in the house so in my view it is rather lame of BB to single Frankie out at this late stage.

They couldn't risk losing the twins. Many people would stop watching and there would basically be no show.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by InOne

They couldn't risk losing the twins. Many people would stop watching and there would basically be no show.

I totally agree with you on that InOne.

[Truth Teller]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yes. He basically wanted to get one over on the twins. He's not liked them since he realised they don't fall for his "laddish charm". Romeo and Michael handled the situation best, which shows the difference in maturity. Gareth let himself down as well.

I wouldn't say it was his fault but agree with the above.

[tweetypiebabe1]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, -and I'm saying this as a fan of the twins- I think if Nicola hadn't butted in and made it her argument it could have been sorted out better. Nicola made everything 1000 times worse imo and made it look like Denise was being ganged up on.

Having said that I would have been livid if she'd done what she did to Karissa to me.

I completely concur. I don't think Frankie had any wrong doing. He butted in yes, but by that point the argument had escalated and all he was saying was for them to stop shouting and sort it out like adults.

Had it not been for Nicola getting involved, the night wouldn't have panned out as it did. Take note, by the end of the night it wasn't even about Karissa's pants getting pulled down, it became all about Nicola and Denise.

[Scotty07]

I agreed with him about Nicola brown nosing the twins 100% and he had every right to go in the bedroom to see if Denise was okay. For the most part though, he was a right little sh*t and made the situation worse. A legendary little sh*t on the night.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

I still don't get how you can say it's all his fault...the whole thing started with the twins and Denise, it's not as if he started anything. And I don't see how he can be blamed for trying to be a peace maker.

"peacemaker", I doubt it, he saw his opportunity to stir and got in there with his wooden spoon, did you not see the clip where he said he liked winding up the twins..

[Patricia4]

If he'd of got his own way with the twins it would of been different he would be on their side and he would of told Denise to shut up.