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Old 07-12-2011, 10:31 PM #151
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America treats all good looking white girls like angels? i guess tyou've never heard of CASEY ANTHONY lol.

So don't act like it's just America thinking we're superior to Italy,

You've read my post and come to that conclusion?

My post had nothing to do with America's treatment of "pretty white girls" or being superior to Italy. I won't bother repeating myself because you've ignored what I put in the post and started a completely different discussion.

My comment about Europe and America was referring to some American's thinking of Europe as one country, nothing to do with the Amanda Knox case (hence the use of OT).

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The report on why the appeal judges did what they did, from:

The Daily Mail

The Guardian

I await the third round, which experts have said will reinstate the convictions as the appeal was flawed and biased from the very start.
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The third round has started

Lets hope the US complies with extradition requests when this woman is sent back to jail after that appeal is overturned as most experts say it will
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I've just read that she's landed a Ł2.5 million book deal
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No money should be made from this whatsoever. Just move on
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No money should be made from this whatsoever. Just move on
She had 4 years of her life wasted...
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2.5 million is crazy though
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She wouldn't have made that much money in that time though, that's crazy

Fair enough it was probably a bidding war by publishers but still
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She had 4 years of her life wasted...
And what of Meredith?

Experts which have looked at this say she has a case to answer and is most likely GUILTY of first degree murder.

That appeal was a sham and some of the so called independent witnesses were too cosy with the defence, and one of the appeal judges made a comment that should have stopped the appeal right there.

Ergo this appeal will be overturned, according to legal experts and the guilty verdicts reimposed.

I found it incredible that while they had this third round, they let the pair of them go! They should have been held in jail pending this third round

Right now we need to all press our MP's or whoever to get our government to make the US authorities extradite this woman to serve the rest of her sentence should that appeal be overturned, as some experts say it will be.
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And what of Meredith?

Experts which have looked at this say she has a case to answer and is most likely GUILTY of first degree murder.

That appeal was a sham and some of the so called independent witnesses were too cosy with the defence, and one of the appeal judges made a comment that should have stopped the appeal right there.

Ergo this appeal will be overturned, according to legal experts and the guilty verdicts reimposed.

I found it incredible that while they had this third round, they let the pair of them go! They should have been held in jail pending this third round

Right now we need to all press our MP's or whoever to get our government to make the US authorities extradite this woman to serve the rest of her sentence should that appeal be overturned, as some experts say it will be.

Yes Sticks Very Valid Point
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Not valid at all.

Its very sad what happened to Meredith. A waste of a life. But if Amanda IS innocent she has no to have 4 years of life snatched and way and for people to say so what? If you were in her shoes youd feel very very different about that. Not fair at all.
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It's a matter of conjecture. No one here has seen the evidence, no one has read the police reports, examined the crime scene, heard transcripts of the suspects being interviewed... the only people who can say whether there is enough evidence to put Amanda Knox away for murder are the lawyers handling the case. Until they get their act together and either present the evidence they have, or admit that there is not enough evidence for a retrial, the discussion will just go round in circles.
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Not valid at all.

Its very sad what happened to Meredith. A waste of a life. But if Amanda IS innocent she has no to have 4 years of life snatched and way and for people to say so what? If you were in her shoes youd feel very very different about that. Not fair at all.


No she is Not
she is part of that sex gang game.
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It's a matter of conjecture. No one here has seen the evidence, no one has read the police reports, examined the crime scene, heard transcripts of the suspects being interviewed... the only people who can say whether there is enough evidence to put Amanda Knox away for murder are the lawyers handling the case. Until they get their act together and either present the evidence they have, or admit that there is not enough evidence for a retrial, the discussion will just go round in circles.
Exactly..and when the conclusion is reached, Meredith's family will have to accept it and if it's the case, find peace with it. There was a case in 1988 of Julie Ward who was brutally murdered in Kenya, after several trials but insufficient evidence, her murderer/s were never convicted. Her father has devoted over 20 years to unsuccessfully achieve justice for her death. It has been his life. I hope this doesn't happen to the Kercher family too. I hope they are able to accept the court decisions...what we think is irrelevant
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Oops... I meant "read transcripts".

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If the conviction was overturned in the first place then it mustn't have been that strong of a case against her in the first place. Innocent until proven guilty with a conviction that sticks I guess.
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Not my thing but its not a crime.............................
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Except when you slit someone's throat
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Amanda is now on trial for slander

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If there is any justice in the world, she will be convicted of slander, given the maximum and extradited back to Italy.

Also this March the prosecution will finally get to over turn that farce of an appeal, and with luck treble her sentence for murdering Meredith.
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Amanda is now on trial for slander

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If there is any justice in the world, she will be convicted of slander, given the maximum and extradited back to Italy.

Also this March the prosecution will finally get to over turn that farce of an appeal, and with luck treble her sentence for murdering Meredith.
the Italian Police make Guantanamo Bay look like a summer camp. They tortured her. And now they are SUING her basically for telling the world about how they tortured her.

Italy is a 3rd world country. There's no doubt about that any more.

Let's remember that originally the prosecution accussed her of being a satanic WITCH. This is a country that still thinks calling a woman a witch is an acceptable form of prosecution.

this is a country where Berlusconi is not in jail, even though it's obvious he raped a child. Why does anyone take anything from Italy seriously anymore? Italy, who's closest relationship is Russia.
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She was never tortured, that is a lie and why she is being prosecuted for slander
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You have no evidence to suggest she wasn't tortured?
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Why would they be prosecuting her for slander if she was?

She is a known liar.

She lied about her boss to deflect attention away from her and her then boyfriend.
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Why would they be prosecuting her for slander if she was?

She is a known liar.

She lied about her boss to deflect attention away from her and her then boyfriend.
Regardless of whether she was tortured or not, they *have* to prosecute for slander to save face. Natural turn of events. Hated this case from the beginning, and still despise it now.
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I still don't believe she had anything to with the murder.
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