[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Comedy doesn't and should never have any boundaries...because it's simply just that, comedy. There is a discernible between satire and jokes, and remarks made with malicious intent, and I find it odd how some people can so easily confuse the two.

Ricky's shows are about mocking stereotypes, tearing them apart and just being generally satirical. If you don't understand satire, then it's offensive, but if you do, it's not.

And this is coming from someone who is pretty indifferent towards him. I might give this show a chance though.

There are lots of comedies that mock stereotypes...But the star is not so openly offensive to individuals in the name of 'comedy'.
That is simply called 'mocking' ...And is a form of bullying.
Nobody should have the right to abuse another and attempt to pass it off as 'entertainment'

[Boothy]

He pushes the boundries, yes, but he's funny.

I've never understood why people complain about comedians if they find them offensive or unfunny.

If you're offended, don't watch.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Boothy

He pushes the boundries, yes, but he's funny.

I've never understood why people complain about comedians if they find them offensive or unfunny.

If you're offended, don't watch.

Thats not really the point is it?..
In this country we have hate laws, discrimination is not tolerated.
So why then is it acceptable when under the guise of 'humour'?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Thats not really the point is it?..
In this country we have hate laws, discrimination is not tolerated.
So why then is it acceptable when under the guise of 'humour'?

Who is Ricky discriminating against?

Also what hate crimes is he carrying out?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Who is Ricky discriminating against?

Also what hate crimes is he carrying out?

What is the topic of the thread gypsy?
And discriminating against disabled people is now a crime. Susan whilst being a lovely singer is also classed as having a disability.
She is not a 'mong' however anyone attempts to define the term...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by kizzy

What is the topic of the thread gypsy?
And discriminating against disabled people is now a crime. Susan whilst being a lovely singer is also classed as having a disability.
She is not a 'mong' however anyone attempts to define the term...

LOL obviously you didn't mean it that away but that sounded like you were insulting her

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

What is the topic of the thread gypsy?
And discriminating against disabled people is now a crime. Susan whilst being a lovely singer is also classed as having a disability.
She is not a 'mong' however anyone attempts to define the term...

He plays a disabled person in a show, how is that discriminating against disabled people.

And did Susan mind when she was called a mong?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Salman!

LOL obviously you didn't mean it that away but that sounded like you were insulting her

[Mrluvaluva]

As previously stated: "Gervais was quick to acknowledge during the routine that the word was once a derogatory term for people with Down's Syndrome, but insisted he was using the modern interpretation.

'I don't mean she has Down's Syndrome, by the way. No, no! That would be offensive

That word doesn't mean that any more,' he said.


Read more: Ricky Gervais in the clear over Susan Boyle 'mong' comments

[Tom4784]

I think anyone that takes any form of comedy seriously is fairly foolish. There's a lot more bigger problems in the world we should be concerned with, a TV show that MIGHT offend someone seems to be a pointless thing to get worked up over in the long run.

I just have nothing for disdain for people who complain about things on TV, if you have such a problem with something then do not watch it or pay any attention to it. By getting pissy you're only bringing attention to the show rather then the issue. All it succeeds in doing is limiting creative freedom.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

He plays a disabled person in a show, how is that discriminating against disabled people.

And did Susan mind when she was called a mong?

He wrote the show.
Is that the issue.. Would you mind being insulted in front of millions of people?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Salman!

LOL obviously you didn't mean it that away but that sounded like you were insulting her

[Tom4784]

This show hasn't aired yet right? It seems a bit pointless to say it's offensive when nobody's seen it yet.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

He wrote the show.
Is that the issue.. Would you mind being insulted in front of millions of people?

Wouldn't he be more discriminating if he didn't write the show? Cause he writes shows about abled people, so what not disabled?


And I don't think I'd mind. Maybe Susan didn't mind either.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

As previously stated: "Gervais was quick to acknowledge during the routine that the word was once a derogatory term for people with Down's Syndrome, but insisted he was using the modern interpretation.

'I don't mean she has Down's Syndrome, by the way. No, no! That would be offensive

That word doesn't mean that any more,' he said.


Read more: Ricky Gervais in the clear over Susan Boyle 'mong' comments

So you keep saying...If it is so open to interpretation, and could mean a complete idiot he could apply it to himself then?...Imo

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Thats not really the point is it?..
In this country we have hate laws, discrimination is not tolerated.
So why then is it acceptable when under the guise of 'humour'?

Who is he discriminating against?

He's playing the part of a disabled person, shall we pretend disabled people don't act in a certain way in case we're 'discriminating' against them?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think anyone that takes any form of comedy seriously is fairly foolish. There's a lot more bigger problems in the world we should be concerned with, a TV show that MIGHT offend someone seems to be a pointless thing to get worked up over in the long run.

I just have nothing for disdain for people who complain about things on TV, if you have such a problem with something then do not watch it or pay any attention to it. By getting pissy you're only bringing attention to the show rather then the issue. All it succeeds in doing is limiting creative freedom.

I disagree, and I feel your view is not taking into account the need for a positive attitude towards the disabled in this country.
As for your 'disdain' it is unfortuate you feel that way, anything for a laff eh?...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Wouldn't he be more discriminating if he didn't write the show? Cause he writes shows about abled people, so what not disabled?


And I don't think I'd mind. Maybe Susan didn't mind either.

No...
I'm sure she was thrilled.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Boothy

Who is he discriminating against?

He's playing the part of a disabled person, shall we pretend disabled people don't act in a certain way in case we're 'discriminating' against them?

The disabled..
Not according to him he isn't...have you read the OP?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by kizzy

No...
I'm sure she was thrilled.

So you'd rather if no one sees the show he has written about disabled people?

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by kizzy

The disabled..
Not according to him he isn't...have you read the OP?

Well if he isn't trying to portray a disabled person what's the problem? I don't understand. Are you saying he's discriminating against disabled people by playing the part of a non-disabled person? How does that work then?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I disagree, and I feel your view is not taking into account the need for a positive attitude towards the disabled in this country.
As for your 'disdain' it is unfortuate you feel that way, anything for a laff eh?...

How do you know the show is offensive though if you haven't seen it?

[Mrluvaluva]

We haven't even seen the show yet but he's discriminating against the disabled? How so?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

So you'd rather if no one sees the show he has written about disabled people?

I would rather him not claim it was satirical, and then backtrack and claim that the character is not disabled.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Boothy

Well if he isn't trying to portray a disabled person what's the problem? I don't understand. Are you saying he's discriminating against disabled people by playing the part of a non-disabled person? How does that work then?

?...Just read the article.