[Jords]

Im seeing tosh thrown left, right and centre.

Deana has been singled out for most of her time in the house, like her or not Im sure we would all agree that would make anybody paranoid and find it difficult to trust fellow HMs. Shievonne planted a very good seed last night by suggesting her 'friends' Adam, Lauren, Luke A, would all leave her to drown like they did in their previous argument. Deana probably then looked over and theyre all in the garden without her probably huddled up having a bitch or laugh and this motion sets in.

People calling Ashleigh the REAL manipulator - are we serious? I dont like her but she probably doesnt even know what the word means. She is the one that started 'it was get Lauren out chants' but this is because shes ignorant and heard what she wanted.. since 'Conor' and 'Lauren' do sound somewhat similar. This is how Deana got her info from... shouldnt have used 2nd hand info as fact to be honest.

So in a nutshell
- Ashleigh starts the 'Get Lauren Out' rumours
- Shievonne and Deana argue
- Shievonne uses opportunity to question "Outsiders" loyalty to Deana ~manipulation~
- Deana becomes paranoid + unsettled - she discusses with Adam

Deana wasnt being manipulative in the slightest, shame on people twisting things just to suit them.

[Jords]

Im unsure when and who told Deana it was 'Get Lauren Out' chants. There should have been a backflash.

[Donovan.]

Lauren and the outsiders walking away from Shievonne and Deana's argument probably didn't help either.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Donovan81996

Lauren and the outsiders walking away from Shievonne and Deana's argument probably didn't help either.

Yepp thats what I meant when I put - 'leave her to drown like they did in their previous argument'

To be honest, I think its quite obvious that Adam/Lauren/Luke A are closer to each other than Deana and I do believe Shiv has some truth in what she says. They definitely dont look out for her - Luke A and Lauren's focus was purely on saving Adam.

However it was always going to look bad as everybody hates Shiv (inc. me) and loves Adam/Lauren/Luke A.

[Jords]

LOL **** I edited too much of my OP.

Just want to say that this is amazing work by Shievonne. She has turned an argument between her and Deana into focussing on "problems" between Deana and her own friends.

This could end in potentially Deana burning bridges and it falling to pieces, which would be horrible to watch. But I am disappointed shes been so easy manipulated, though I can understand why since her journey in the house has been made hard by so many arseholes.

But yeah, if this was BBUS that would have been an amazing move.