[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

The only thing that annoys me is introducing more characters to be part of big established families, although it helps that Kirsty is not actually related to any of the Brannings LOL.

good point

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

The only thing that annoys me is introducing more characters to be part of big established families, although it helps that Kirsty is not actually related to any of the Brannings LOL.

Well it'll still be the same amount as before now Derek's gone.

[Brother Leon]

I can't look past Kirsty as the Woman who grew weed in Topboy.

[reece(:]

When Derek was released from prison, he introduced Max to Kirsty. The pair were instantly smitten Having been thrown out by Tanya (unaware of the onset of her cancer) Max was at his lowest ebb, while Kirsty was trying to extract herself from an incredibly destructive relationship. The attraction was instant but grew into something much deeper very quickly. It was electric.

Kirsty wore her heart on her sleeve with Max. Chaotic and vulnerable, she laid everything on the table. No holds barred. Caught in a whirlwind romance, Max bared his soul – well, most of it, anyway! Neither had anything to lose. In a moment of shared madness the pair had a shotgun wedding in a registry office. It was spontaneous and hedonistic but Kirsty had finally found ‘The One’, while Max was determined to put his past behind him. With Derek’s criminal activities down the toilet, Max and Kirsty resolved to move away from London (to Manchester) a week later and start a new life together.

Max and Derek planned to meet Kirsty there but during the move, Max was called back to Albert Square and discovered that Tanya had been diagnosed with cancer and was refusing treatment. Realising he'd been sent away under false pretences, Max stayed to look after Tanya and rescue his family. Unable to face Kirsty - and afraid that if he even saw her again he would be powerless to resist - he simply informed her by phone that it was over. In the few months Max was with Kirsty, a real bond was forged and it's something he’s run from ever since, hoping it would fade. It hasn’t.

Devastated by his apparently-callous abandonment, Kirsty had no way of finding Max. Derek – happy with his new-found family life - was in regular contact with Kirsty but gave misleading information in a bid to ensure she couldn’t find him. Broken-hearted, this confirmed all Kirsty's worst fears about love. It was around this time that she made the shocking discovery that she was pregnant.

Kirsty contacted Derek to pass the news of her pregnancy onto Max but Derek selfishly lied and insisted that Max was not interested. The truth: Max was never told. The ordeal sent Kirsty into a spiral: pregnant in a strange city and rejected by the one man she’s ever truly loved, Kirsty was forced to make a difficult choice and opted to have an abortion. Max was never party to this information but Derek knew – and even stooped as low as paying for it behind his brother’s back.

Kirsty was incensed when an envelope of money and divorce papers were pushed through her letterbox (by Max). Kept at bay by Derek, Kirsty was determined to find Max and let him know exactly what he'd done to her but it was only when an angry Derek turned on Max on Christmas Eve that she finally found out where Max lived and decided to reclaim her man… Christmas Day has never been very good for Max’s love life!

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

When Derek was released from prison, he introduced Max to Kirsty. The pair were instantly smitten Having been thrown out by Tanya (unaware of the onset of her cancer) Max was at his lowest ebb, while Kirsty was trying to extract herself from an incredibly destructive relationship. The attraction was instant but grew into something much deeper very quickly. It was electric.

Kirsty wore her heart on her sleeve with Max. Chaotic and vulnerable, she laid everything on the table. No holds barred. Caught in a whirlwind romance, Max bared his soul – well, most of it, anyway! Neither had anything to lose. In a moment of shared madness the pair had a shotgun wedding in a registry office. It was spontaneous and hedonistic but Kirsty had finally found ‘The One’, while Max was determined to put his past behind him. With Derek’s criminal activities down the toilet, Max and Kirsty resolved to move away from London (to Manchester) a week later and start a new life together.

Max and Derek planned to meet Kirsty there but during the move, Max was called back to Albert Square and discovered that Tanya had been diagnosed with cancer and was refusing treatment. Realising he'd been sent away under false pretences, Max stayed to look after Tanya and rescue his family. Unable to face Kirsty - and afraid that if he even saw her again he would be powerless to resist - he simply informed her by phone that it was over. In the few months Max was with Kirsty, a real bond was forged and it's something he’s run from ever since, hoping it would fade. It hasn’t.

Devastated by his apparently-callous abandonment, Kirsty had no way of finding Max. Derek – happy with his new-found family life - was in regular contact with Kirsty but gave misleading information in a bid to ensure she couldn’t find him. Broken-hearted, this confirmed all Kirsty's worst fears about love. It was around this time that she made the shocking discovery that she was pregnant.

Kirsty contacted Derek to pass the news of her pregnancy onto Max but Derek selfishly lied and insisted that Max was not interested. The truth: Max was never told. The ordeal sent Kirsty into a spiral: pregnant in a strange city and rejected by the one man she’s ever truly loved, Kirsty was forced to make a difficult choice and opted to have an abortion. Max was never party to this information but Derek knew – and even stooped as low as paying for it behind his brother’s back.

Kirsty was incensed when an envelope of money and divorce papers were pushed through her letterbox (by Max). Kept at bay by Derek, Kirsty was determined to find Max and let him know exactly what he'd done to her but it was only when an angry Derek turned on Max on Christmas Eve that she finally found out where Max lived and decided to reclaim her man… Christmas Day has never been very good for Max’s love life!

oh thanks recce

[Brother Leon]

Yeah, It's basically a trade.

Derek for Kirsty....oh dear EE

[Me. I Am Salman]

Kirsty >>>> Derek

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Kirsty >>>> Derek

She'll never match the greatest character since Grant Mitchell & Johnny Allen.

[Marcus.]

well let see what she can do first

[Jords]

Kirsty seems like a good addition

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Elf Ears

Kirsty seems like a good addition

let see what she can do

[Redway]

Not a bad episode I guess but a bit of an anticlimax...I'd be surprised if you genuinely couldn't see Max's "secret" coming from a mile off. Totally predictable and clichéd. I do like Kirsty, though. A bit of a nutter but looks interesting enough to make this mess of a storyline at least mildly watchable.

Tanya was a hypocrite, as usual, having a go at Max for exactly what she did a year or so back.

Good to see Alfie/Roxy together and it's obviously too late for Kat to even begin to try and salvage the situation.

A bit disappointed that none of the episode was set in the Vic, which is usually great for Christmas.

And is it just me or did Derek's laughable heart attack scene bear any resemblance to Pauline's cringeworthy last few seconds on the square, back in '06?

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

Not a bad episode I guess but a bit of an anticlimax...I'd be surprised if you genuinely couldn't see Max's "secret" coming from a mile off. Totally predictable and clichéd. I do like Kirsty, though. A bit of a nutter but looks interesting enough to make this mess of a storyline at least mildly watchable.

Tanya was a hypocrite, as usual, having a go at Max for exactly what she did a year or so back.

Good to see Alfie/Roxy together and it's obviously too late for Kat to even begin to try and salvage the situation.

A bit disappointed that none of the episode was set in the Vic, which is usually great for Christmas.

And is it just me or did Derek's laughable heart attack scene bear any resemblance to Pauline's cringeworthy last few seconds on the square, back in '06?

yeah they wanted him to be remembered

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Shining Star

yeah they wanted him to be remembered

He'll probably just be added to the plethora of shit characters the show has killed off over the years tbh...I think I'd place Derek in the same bracket as Trevor, Johny Allen, Jake and Kevin.

[reece(:]

Although those lips are rather distracting.

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Although those lips are rather distracting.

yeah they are

[Black Dagger]

LMAO... so Derek dies and this Kirsty is going to be a regular.

Yeah, because that is a show worth watching...

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Prancer

LMAO... so Derek dies and this Kirsty is going to be a regular.

Yeah, because that is a show worth watching...

we don't know what she like

[Doogle]

Kirsty is so sassy I just named my Skyrim character after her I regret nothing

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Shining Star

sorry

yeah she could

No worries.

Originally Posted by Salman!

It was a gripping storyline though

Yeah, it was good..except it got a bit silly towards the end (Phil hiring Juley to sleep with Ruby to piss him off).

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

No worries.

thanks

[King Gizzard]

just watched it as an outsider, why on earth did the grey cardigan boy suddenly start running over showing concern when he was dead when it was clear he was having a heart attack for 20 seconds or so

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

just watched it as an outsider, why on earth did the grey cardigan boy suddenly start running over showing concern when he was dead when it was clear he was having a heart attack for 20 seconds or so

Joey just came back because his father Derek, who died blackmailed him to leave after finding out his son was shagging his brother Max's daughter Lauren, so things were tense between them LOL.

Lauren is an alcoholic and she and Joey ran away after Derek and Tanya found out about what they were doing and while Joey was driving Lauren distracted him and they crashed into a shop. Derek saved them from the flames, but Joey took the blame to protect Lauren.

[bbfan1991]

'EastEnders' tops Corrie to Christmas Day ratings crown

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s2/ea...ngs-crown.html

Get in. Low figures than previous years for both though!

[Vanessa]

Yay! Eastenders rules!