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Old 21-09-2012, 04:45 PM #1
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Unhappy Asda Sex Attack: Boy, 4, Assaulted In Toilet

Police have appealed for help after a four-year-old boy was sexually abused in a supermarket toilet in West Dunbartonshire.

The incident happened on Tuesday at 1.55pm in the men's toilet at Asda superstore in Britannia Way, Clydebank.

The boy had been allowed to go into the toilet on his own by his mother who was waiting for him outside.

Strathclyde Police say the incident happened within minutes of the boy entering the toilet and he raised the alarm when he came out.

Detectives are closely inspecting CCTV footage from the Asda store and have appealed for the public to help them in their investigation to find the alleged attacker.

Detective Inspector Graham Cordner, who is helping lead the investigation, told Sky News the boy is trying to help the police as much as he can to identify the man but because of his age specialised officers are needed to interview him.

The boy has described his attacker as being male, dressed in dark clothing with logos on his top.

Det Insp Cordner said he could not confirm the age of the man.

He told Sky News: "This is a very worrying incident but I do want to stress to the general public that it was a completely isolated incident.

"We do need the help of the public who were in the store, or in the Clydebank shopping area, at the time of this attack to come forward.

"If anyone saw anything, even if they don't think it's important, it may well be. So please just contact the police. We just need as much information as possible so we can get a full picture as to what happened."

It is hoped that CCTV footage throughout the store and the surrounding car parks and shops in the area will reveal clues as to the identity of the alleged sex attacker.

An Asda spokeswoman said: "We have taken this report very seriously. We alerted the police and are supporting them fully in their investigation."

Police have asked anyone who was in the supermarket at the time or who saw anyone acting suspiciously in the store or surrounding area to make contact with Dumbarton Police Office on 01389 822000.


Poor kid, hope he is OK and is having lots of support. His family obviously must be distraught that this has happened. Some people are sick in the head!
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http://news.sky.com/story/988020/asd...lted-in-toilet

I hope they catch him. CCTV to go through
If only she took him into a womans toilet
into a cubicle, which she stands outside from.

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I was sooo paranoid about this my lad was 9 before i let him go to a public loo alone, and then i would push the door and shout hurry up!
I got a few odd looks but I didn't care..
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I was sooo paranoid about this my lad was 9 before i let him go to a public loo alone, and then i would push the door and shout hurry up! I got a few odd looks but I didn't care..
That I fully understand.

You are Wise.

As you never know - when the next time is.

With The CCTV
I am sure they will get this Evil punk.
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That I fully understand.

You are Wise.

As you never know - when the next time is.

With The CCTV
I am sure they will get this Evil punk.
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This is beyond sick.

what I don't get is: the wee boy was 4. I can honestly say that at that age, most parents (male or female) - take the child to the toilet when it's a public one. WTH was the mother thinking about?

Clydebank - many parts of it - can be tough, rough and very ready ...... I have no pity for the guy in question if he's found before the cops do..... even saying that: I wouldn't be surprised if / when that happens, that the cops accidentally cause some damage to him. I wish them well when his time comes.
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Agreed! A 4 year old allowed in the toilet by himself? That's crazy!
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Where on earth is the parents' responsibility? I'm not diminishing what this monster did. but why would any parent let a 4 year old out of their sight?
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awful, I can't believe the mother let him in a toilets on his own. She should have taken him in with her in the ladies. No doubt the perp thought he'd get away with it unknowingly that the CCTV was videoing him.

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I agree, how did she let that child out of her sight? That is a question that she will continue to blame herself over.
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Thats a bit unfair to start with the poor parenting slant, its not like every supermarket toilet comes with a resident peado is it?..
My two were quite capable of toiletting themselves, I was jus a little over cautious.
It's a nightmare senario and my heart really goes out to them.
Someone tried to snatch me when I was a kid in an amusement arcade so i'm a bit wary of strangers and strange places.
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Much as I really want to: I'm not going to make judgement on the mother: she's learned one very hard lesson and she'll have to live with that, god forbid it's bad enough as it is: but it could have been so much worse.

Hopefully with the wee fella being so young: it may not impact too much, one can only hope that it doesn't.

Given that there will be a limited amount of traffic from the male toilet - I'm hopeful that this sick swine of a man will be caught.
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awful, I can't believe the mother let him in a toilets on his own. She should have taken him in with her in the ladies. No doubt the perp thought he'd get away with it unknowingly that the CCTV was videoing him.
Yes but maybe he would not go into a Ladies
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Thats a bit unfair to start with the poor parenting slant, its not like every supermarket toilet comes with a resident peado is it?..

My two were quite capable of toiletting themselves, I was jus a little over cautious.

It's a nightmare senario and my heart really goes out to them.

Someone tried to snatch me when I was a kid in an amusement arcade so i'm a bit wary of strangers and strange places.
bit of a change in stance from your first post Kiz.

I personally am not and was not inferring that it was poor parenting: what I am saying is it was not good judgement, not at all - for all sorts of reasons - never mind this terrible one.

After all - paedophiles tend to be in the last place you'd expect, and often, are the last person you'd ever think it would be - the fact that it happened to be in a supermarket toilet makes no difference - it could have been in the local library / the cafe up the road.
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Yes but maybe he would not go into a Ladies
with his mum.


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At 4 years of age Arista: a very young child does what the parents tell it: not the other way around.
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Exactly. I would have taken him with me to the ladies.
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At 4 years of age Arista: a very young child does what the parents tell it: not the other way around.

Sure.

But the mother may have thought being in a store was safe.

I think Kizzy could do a public information film
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bit of a change in stance from your first post Kiz.

I personally am not and was not inferring that it was poor parenting: what I am saying is it was not good judgement, not at all - for all sorts of reasons - never mind this terrible one.

After all - paedophiles tend to be in the last place you'd expect, and often, are the last person you'd ever think it would be - the fact that it happened to be in a supermarket toilet makes no difference - it could have been in the local library / the cafe up the road.
Did you even get to the bottom of my second comment before you started typing your reply?....My guess is no.
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Exactly. I would have taken him with me to the ladies.

Yes as you can stand outside the cubicle
Its normal to do that , I think.
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Yes as you can stand outside the cubicle
Its normal to do that , I think.
It's perfectly normal for a mother to go inside the cubicle, not just wait outside.
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Did you even get to the bottom of my second comment before you started typing your reply?....My guess is no.
Yes, I did. You guessed wrong. Your first post explained that you were 'sooooo paranoid' ., without the further detail being necessary; it doesn't change my thoughts on the matter though.
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It's perfectly normal for a mother to go inside the cubicle, not just wait outside.
Sure
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It's perfectly normal for a mother to go inside the cubicle, not just wait outside.
I often notice mum is at the 'open door' to the cubicle - inside just about, with the door half shut, half open - due to the lack of space in some of them (as well as to give the wee one a bit of privacy) - or as you say, be inside the cubicle.
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