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Old 05-10-2012, 06:14 PM #251
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Oh dear and now THIS is coming out!
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...?ncid=webmail2
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so evething coming out
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There might well be some genuine victims. But I find it hard to believe that 40 people kept a vow of silence until the guy died. Muchmore likely IMO that a load of people are just trying to cash in on this now, get a bit of attention and maybe some $$$ from the rags.

These people are scum IMO, as it diverts attention from genuine cases. No way do I believe that 40 people all kept quiet until now.
I agree, some people are taking the absolute piss
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The more I read about this, the worse it seems to get. Why Freddie Starr would seek an injunction against "false allegations" is beyond me. I am sure it now just makes him look more guilty in some peoples eyes.
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Yes and more will be going out to the police.


Another week of it
due to the BBC first saying they knew nothing at first
now they will show the banned Newsnight report soon.
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If Savile abused just 1 child a week for 20 years, that would be 1000 victims out there .....
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A retired nurse watched in horror as Sir Jimmy Savile molested a vulnerable young woman hospital patient while working as a porter, writes Paul Jeeves.

June Thornton, now 80, said when she tried to report the DJ’s indecent assault to a senior nurse the matter was ignored.

The former York Hospital nurse threatened to “scream the place down” if Savile came near her bed as she recovered from a back injury at Leeds General Infirmary in 1972.

More than 40 women and one man – a school tutor – have now made allegations against the Jim’ll Fix It star.

Mrs Thornton said she saw Savile kissing and groping a woman who she believed was recovering from neurosurgery. “He should be stripped of his knighthood,” she added.

The claims came as another North Yorkshire woman said she was touched inappropriately by Savile in a lift at the hospital in 1973. The woman, now 55, said she was 16 when the abuse happened.
Obviously, this is just another paid-for tissue of lies and part of the conspiracy to besmirch the sacred reputation of St James of Savile .....
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No one believes he was a saint. Most people, myself included, think he was awful and creepy. But once again, here's someone who saw everything - a nurse, presumably not a stupid woman - who's complaint was "ignored". Forty years later she's remembered how horrified she was.
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Unhappy A 15-year-old who killed herself after leaving a diary naming DJs as abusers

Jimmy Savile publicly denied having known her

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Back in the Seventies, when Jimmy Savile was at the height of his fame, he was interviewed by a newspaper about the death of a teenage girl.

The youngster was Claire McAlpine. She was just 15 years old and had been a regular dancer in the audience of Top Of The Pops.

On the morning of March 29, 1971, Claire, a former convent school pupil, was found lying on the floor of her bedroom at home in Watford, Hertfordshire, by her distraught mother. She had taken a fatal overdose.

Near her body was a bottle of tablets and her red diary. ‘Don’t laugh at me for being dramatic, but I just can’t take it any more,’ Claire wrote.

It was her last heartbreaking entry to her parents before she killed herself.

On the preceding pages, she had named a string of radio disc jockeys — and other showbusiness personalities, all household names — who, she claimed, had ‘used’ her.

One of the DJs, she said, had taken her to his house for the night and given her a pill which made her feel like she was ‘floating on a cloud’. Another had also invited her back to his ‘sumptuously furnished’ residence.

Savile, then in his 40s, who presented Top Of The Pops, was asked during the interview if he knew or remembered Claire from the show.

‘I studied a photograph of Claire very closely,’ he replied. ‘I cannot recollect ever seeing the girl in my life. They say she came from Watford. I don’t know anyone who lives in Watford.’

The inquest into Claire’s death was held shortly after the article appeared. The coroner ruled that Claire committed suicide after deciding her ‘day-dreams’ of becoming a pop star would never come true.

Claire’s diary was scrutinised by Scotland Yard, but no action was taken against the DJs, who, she alleged, had ‘used’ her for their own sexual gratification.

They were never even questioned, let alone identified. ‘It would be ridiculous to connect anyone or anything mentioned in her diary with reality,’ a police spokesman said at the time.

Or, to put another way, Claire was a portrayed as a troubled fantasist. Her death, however tragic, had nothing to do with a sex scandal involving the showbusiness establishment.
Suicide: Claire McAlpine, 15, pictured dancing in the Top Of The Pops audience just weeks before she died

A picture from Top of The Pops in 1971 shows Claire McAlpine, centre, dancing on stage with Jimmy Savile, third from right, only weeks before she died
Claire is very pretty, blonde, and wearing hotpants - not exactly forgettable .....

Bizarre: Late BBC Radio DJ John Peel, who died in 2004, poses wearing a schoolgirl uniform in 1973

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Peel, awarded the OBE in 1998, is perhaps best remembered for his Saturday morning programme Home Truths on Radio 4 in which he talked about family life to Middle England.

But as a young man, he worked in Texas as a local radio station DJ and self-appointed ‘Beatles expert’.

When he was older, he recalled some of the ‘perks’ of the job in several newspaper interviews in the Seventies and Eighties.

Girls, some as young as 13, he said, used to queue up outside his studio to offer him sexual favours. ‘Well, of course, I didn’t ask for ID,’ he said.

‘All they wanted me to do was to abuse them sexually which, of course I was only too happy to do.

‘It was the glamour of the job . . . but frustratingly, American girls of that period — as they do now, actually — had this strange notion of virginity as a tangible thing which you surrendered to your husband on your wedding night.

‘So they would do anything but s*** you. They’d give you a b*** *** before they’d s*** you.’

Even now, and allowing for Peel’s famously sardonic humour, it is troubling that those words came from Radio 4’s cuddly champion of middle-class values. One of the girls who queued up outside his studio was a girl called Shirley Anne Milburn. She and Peel were married in Texas on September 29, 1965.

Peel was 26 years old. Shirley Anne was just 15.

‘She lied about her age and so did her family,’ he would later declare.
Of course she did, John .....

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Wow, you're really sucking all this up, aren't you Omah. Obviously if someone is famous, dead and had a dick, they were a paedophile.

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And yet now somebody elses name is being rubbished who cannot defend himself.
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Wow, you're really sucking all this up, aren't you Omah. Obviously if someone is famous, dead and had a dick, they were a paedophile.
Obviously, you're exaggerating .....
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Mhm i dont like the character assasination
all the good he did do is now all forgotten, and the media can spin and twist as much as they want to
i would have been interesting if this case happened when he was alive, and disgusted
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Savile was a bully who both threatened his victims and cowed the Press at a time when we were, whatever Lord Justice Leveson has been told on the subject, a lot more likely to do as they were told.

Even if you'd found a damaged 14-year-old prepared to be named, who could withstand accusations she had invited it, provided photographic proof, and been able to persuade a newspaper it could appall the nation and its readers, Savile was a man of wealth and influence who would have sued her, the newspaper, and everyone else he could find.

If Savile had faced charges, we'd all have to watch him skip up the courthouse steps with his cigar and jewellery giving a thumbs-up for weeks on end and hear him do that stupid half-yodel in the witness box while claiming he wasn't there, didn't do it, or they pounced on him.

Perhaps women only feel safe to say it now he's dead.

Perhaps even now, with anonymity and more understanding, they wouldn't want to sit in court and be cross-examined or have their motivation and sexual history questioned.

Perhaps if there was a court case there'd only be four women coming forward rather than 40.

Perhaps, if he was still alive, we'd not have heard any of this at all.

Some victims have now had their say and avoided cross-examination, but they've had to wait decades and while they kept their mouths shut, who knows how many more girls were attacked.
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But if all these allegations are true, it really is awful
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Even if only some are true .....
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Oh so now the press have had no say in the matter until now due to oppression? Do you really believe that?
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Oh so now the press have had no say in the matter until now due to oppression? Do you really believe that?
No ..... AFAIK, "oppression" is the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner, e.g. over slaves
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Mhm i dont like the character assasination
all the good he did do is now all forgotten, and the media can spin and twist as much as they want to
i would have been interesting if this case happened when he was alive, and disgusted
The matter of it is, if he did sexually assault young men and woman, he doesn't deserve the good stuff he did to be remembered.
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The matter of it is, if he did sexually assault young men and woman, he doesn't deserve the good stuff he did to be remembered.
Again... IF.

Lots of evidence for the good works, none for the bad stuff except a gaggle of unsubstantiated claims and tittle-tattle blown out of proporation by the scummiest sections of the press.
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Lightbulb The rumours about Jimmy Savile were common knowledge

– judging by audience reaction to jokes cracked off air on The News Quiz

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Since it is, quite rightly, open season on Jimmy Savile, I might add my two penn'orth. I thought he was a terrible disc jockey, boring, repetitive and more interested in himself than any record or guest. Compared with, say, Kenny Everett, who was a blazing talent, he was uninventive and predictable. He was the kind of person often described as "larger than life", which usually means a "tedious old show-off".

He was almost inarticulate. "Now then, now then," is not exactly the wittiest catchphrase. I once saw him interview a retired military officer for Jim'll Fix It, or "Jim'll Fix It If The BBC Can Get It For Free", as it should have been called. The old chap had a collection of Victoria Cross medals. "Now then, general, are any of these here medals any more different from the rest than what the others are?" he inquired.

People praised him for his charity work but, with some people, charity can be a form of aggression. The message is, "I'm helping you, so love me." And he made sure we all knew about it. Doing good by stealth was not his style.

Oddly enough his lascivious tastes were better known than you might imagine. When I chaired The News Quiz, we used to occasionally say things at the recording which we knew would be cut, but which might pique the audience into laughing even louder. Once I said something like, "Yes, it's about Jimmy Savile, Britain's best-loved celebrity paedophile." I expected a gasp, but instead got a knowing laugh. Almost everyone, it seemed, had heard the stories.
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I seriously doubt that all 40 people are liers. Some, yes maybe, but some of the others could be hard working, honest people who were assaulted by this man back in the day. Also that conversation posted between him and that female is a bit disturbing!
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I seriously doubt that all 40 people are liers. Some, yes maybe, but some of the others could be hard working, honest people who were assaulted by this man back in the day. Also that conversation posted between him and that female is a bit disturbing!
You don't know though, do you. You don't know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that these things are true. It wouldn't be the first time people jumped on a bandwaggon. One piece of evidence. Just one. That's all I need to change my mind.
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