May I?

There is no reason to believe in any kind of soul/spirit/presence, so finding somewhere for the magical spirit to hide away seems like an unnecessary problem requiring an unnecessary solution .

We're all a product of our brains and genes. That's where our emotions/personalities come from, and when the brain shuts down, the corpses we leave behind rot away.

[Ammi]

..yeah but the corpses are only the vessels JHC..I believe it's the spirit/essence that makes us what/who we are...that's the sparkle behind the eye type thing...the bodies would be dormant anyway, without that, so to me, a body once perished is irrelevant anyway...I've often wondered that when I've seen a dead person...that person isn't there anymore, but the body remains...empty....I wonder what happens to them all.....

Nothing.

The "glint in the eye," as you put it, is the personality. That is a product of genetic wiring and direct experiences growing up, and cobbled together by the brain to reflect out our histories.

Otherwise you have to go into the galactical justice system that gives some people a glint, but others a murderous glint. If we accept that we aren't special, and are just bog standard machines, but carrying around the most complicated structure in the universe in our heads, then we are exactly what you would expect.

As the late, great, Christopher Hitchens wrote, “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[Ammi]

..if we weren't special though then we wouldn't be unique...and we are all unique....but yes..there are 'good glints' and 'bad glints'...extremes..but, on the whole I think most people have a bit of both, which is how it should be to create a balanced personality....

..and I also don't think we always need evidence for everything...not when it comes to spritual/emotional things....

Originally Posted by Ammi

..if we weren't special though then we wouldn't be unique...and we are all unique....but yes..there are 'good glints' and 'bad glints'...extremes..but, on the whole I think most people have a bit of both, which is how it should be to create a balanced personality....

..and I also don't think we always need evidence for everything...not when it comes to spritual/emotional things....

Of course we're all unique. In the same way every dog or cat is unique.

I think when postulating about potential zones that spirits can fly off to after our bodies die, it's pretty critical to have some kind of evidence otherwise the scenario can be played out into absurdity.

I don't understand why people want there to be something else. Live your life, try to do well and have a family (if that's your bag) and then our genes kill us off to make way for future generations. It's how nature works, and nature, apart from being a cruel bitch, is ruthlessly efficient when it comes to death

[Ammi]

..yes, I do agree that nature is ruthlessly efficient..but that's when it comes down to what your personal belief in what 'death' is...I believe death is of the body and not of the spirit...I don't know whether a spirit can die...I guess that's why I'm interested....

..I don't think it's so much wanting there to be something else..for me anyway...if a spirit dies with the body, then so be it....I'm just not sure that it does....and I know I never will be sure..no one can...but I find it interesting....


..of course, being Jesus..you already know where all of those spirits go..

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Ammi;5697743]..if we weren't special though then we wouldn't be unique...and we are all unique....but yes..there are 'good glints' and 'bad glints'...extremes..but, on the whole I think most people have a bit of both, which is how it should be to create a balanced personality....

..and I also don't think we always need evidence for everything...not when it comes to spritual/emotional things....[/QUOTE]

I agree fully with this. Really good point.