Originally Posted by Turboman

Okay well I've lived in a place where I've never been robbed already and thankfully no one's ever been shot dead either, though I daresay one doesn't just need personal experience to dismiss this as the most ridiculous 'argument' ever written.

Burglars love lemons.

Never buy a lemon, never be the victim of a crime.

Now that is a slogan the US can get behind.

[Liberty4eva]

I also get tired of the people who flaunt "statistics". Newsflash: you can basically manipulate statistics to make whatever point you want to make. This coming from someone who has a MASTERS degree in Statistics. Personal experience should trump whatever statistics pop out of a Michael Moore movie any day of the week.

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I also get tired of the people who flaunt "statistics". Newsflash: you can basically manipulate statistics to make whatever point you want to make. This coming from someone who has a MASTERS degree in Statistics. Personal experience should trump whatever statistics pop out of a Michael Moore movie any day of the week.

But one piece of anecdotal evidence from you, is supposed to be the thing that convinces everyone else?

Nonsense.

When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

But one piece of anecdotal evidence from you, is supposed to be the thing that convinces everyone else?

Nonsense.

When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.

My own personal experience is no better nor worse than anyone elses. The point I try to make is the side that there are people who get tired of being told that the 2nd amendment is a problem and if we got rid of it all these shootings would magically go away.
You have a president whose administration was caught in a scam called Fast and Furious where they would give guns to Mexican drug dealers and, when violence rose, blame the 2nd amendment. THAT is how bad they want to get rid of gun-ownership.

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

My own personal experience is no better nor worse than anyone elses. The point I try to make is the side that there are people who get tired of being told that the 2nd amendment is a problem and if we got rid of it all these shootings would magically go away.
You have a president whose administration was caught in a scam called Fast and Furious where they would give guns to Mexican drug dealers and, when violence rose, blame the 2nd amendment. THAT is how bad they want to get rid of gun-ownership.

Wayne LaPierre would be proud of your anti-Obama gun conspiracy theories. That F&F government scam you mentioned, is bollocks, and only in wingnut land did it have anything to do with the 2nd amendment. Now things are starting to make sense with you, though. Keep listening to Hannity and Limbaugh.

It's basic mathematics - less guns = less shootings, and it's absurd to claim anything else.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Wayne LaPierre would be proud of your anti-Obama gun conspiracy theories. That F&F government scam you mentioned, is bollocks, and only in wingnut land did itt have anything to do with the 2nd ammendment. Now things are starting to make sense with you, though. Keep listening to Hannity and Limbaugh.

It's basic mathematics - less guns = less shootings, and it's absurd to claim anything else.

Hmmm, well this last shooting happened in a state that has strict gun laws.

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Hmmm, well this last shooting happened in a state that has strict gun laws.

They were so strict, that a mother was able to take her son on trips to the shooting range in order to bond together. I know I'm both a leftie, and British, but gun laws that allow that scenario to play out, don't really seem that stringent to me.