Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-04-2013, 06:03 PM #126
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Loved and Hated
But PM for 11 years


Labour could never ever do that.

Last edited by arista; 08-04-2013 at 06:09 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:04 PM #127
Z's Avatar
Z Z is offline
Z
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Z Z is offline
Z
Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 23,560


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omah View Post
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-...f-her-critics/

The news of the Baroness Thatcher's death has also drawn reactions from some of her critics.

Former London mayor Ken Livingstone told Sky News:

She created today's housing crisis, she produced the banking crisis, she created the benefits crisis ... Every real problem we face today is the legacy of the fact she was fundamentally wrong.

– KEN LIVINGSTONE ON SKY NEWS

Paul Kenny, general secretary of the GMB trade union, said:

Her legacy involves the destruction of communities, the elevation of personal greed over social values and legitimising the exploitation of the weak by the strong.

– Paul Kenny, general secretary, GMB union
Lindsey German, convenor of the Stop The War Coalition, said:

She led alongside Ronald Reagan the escalation of the Cold War. She introduced cruise missiles to Britain and fought the Falklands war.

Her arms deals with Saudi Arabia were notorious. Her legacy was Tony Blair who built enthusiastically on her record.

– Lindsey German, Stop The War Coalition
Bit in bold is an extremely good point - and it irritates me that fervent Labour supporters often overlook this fact, just as much as it irritates me that Conservative supporters try and accuse Blair of ruining her legacy. He did the exact opposite, he furthered her abominable policies, they're as bad as each other in that respect.
Z is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:04 PM #128
Lee.'s Avatar
Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
Lee.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
No Lee I am Not
Try and watch some News about her


And you are wrong
as she helped the Working class get rich.
How you miss that - I will never understand.

Maybe you are to young
I do not need to watch the news Arista. I know only to well what she did to working class communties mainly here in Scotland and the North of England, communities that have never recovered. She did not help anyone get rich, apart from the already affluent, she did create poverty, misery and unemployment. How you don't get that, Iwill never understand.

Maybe you are too stupid
__________________
http://i.imgur.com/8thdnzq.jpg
Lee. is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:05 PM #129
AnnieK's Avatar
AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,967


AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
AnnieK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 15,967


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Loved and Hated
But PM for 21 years


Labour could never ever do that.
She was PM for 11 years from 1979 - 1990
__________________
AnnieK is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:06 PM #130
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee. View Post
I do not need to watch the news Arista. I know only to well what she did to working class communties mainly here in Scotland and the North of England, communities that have never recovered. She did not help anyone get rich, apart from the already affluent, she did create poverty, misery and unemployment. How you don't get that, Iwill never understand.

Maybe you are too stupid

No not stupid
She was Loved and Hated

But what a state Labour were in
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:08 PM #131
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by anniek76 View Post
She was PM for 11 years from 1979 - 1990

True
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:10 PM #132
Lee.'s Avatar
Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
Lee.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by anniek76 View Post
She was PM for 11 years from 1979 - 1990
Haha.. I can clearly remember the day she resigned.. my modern studies teacher had balloons pinned all round his classroom both outside and in and wore a party hat.
__________________
http://i.imgur.com/8thdnzq.jpg
Lee. is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:11 PM #133
Lee.'s Avatar
Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Lee. Lee. is offline
Lee.
Lee.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14,808

Favourites:
UBB: Brian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
No not stupid
She was Loved and Hated

But what a state Labour were in
The love was not widespread in Scotland, believe me
__________________
http://i.imgur.com/8thdnzq.jpg
Lee. is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:14 PM #134
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee. View Post
The love was not widespread in Scotland, believe me

I know that
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:16 PM #135
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Fecking BBC4 World news is meant to be on.
so what does Bloated BBC do puts BBCNews Ch direct on it
about Thatcher.


How the Feck is that World News
People are Dead in Asia


Fecking BBC

Last edited by arista; 08-04-2013 at 06:17 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:37 PM #136
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Parliament Recalled on Wednesday
for Thatcher.


Omah rush down there

Last edited by arista; 08-04-2013 at 06:42 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:42 PM #137
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Default

Polly Toynbee on C4 News condemning the Witch's domestic policy which destroyed whole industries and the communities that worked in them without considering what was to replace those industries.
Omah is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:43 PM #138
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omah View Post
Polly Toynbee on C4 News condemning the Witch's domestic policy which destroyed whole industries and the communities that worked in them without considering what was to replace those industries.


Yes Ch4News
far better than Bloated BBC

Last edited by arista; 08-04-2013 at 06:50 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 06:46 PM #139
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Omah Omah is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tralfamadore
Posts: 10,343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zee View Post
Bit in bold is an extremely good point - and it irritates me that fervent Labour supporters often overlook this fact, just as much as it irritates me that Conservative supporters try and accuse Blair of ruining her legacy. He did the exact opposite, he furthered her abominable policies, they're as bad as each other in that respect.
Multi-millionaire Blair makes me want to
Omah is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:03 PM #140
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Her career had it's pros and cons and I despised her politics but I respected her as a person.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:12 PM #141
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

The only reason Thatcher sold off the housing stock was she was well aware that most of it was substandard, steel framed, prefabricated, jerry built cardboard boxes that would cost more money to maintain than they were worth.
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:13 PM #142
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,811

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,811

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

.... and as to this supposed great leader and PM, how did her premiership end again?
Not with any election defeat, not with her going at a time of her choosing, not because of ill health.not because her Family wanted her to and definitely not because she herself even wanted to give up but because her party plotted against her and then stabbed her in the back while she was fighting the UKs corner in Europe.

Cowards then and cowards now. Then look who they replaced her with, John Major??.

I certainly wouldn't have been a supporter of hers had I been born and a voter then but what a despicable party to end her time as PM and leader like that.
Now just listen to all the ramblings of those who destroyed her are saying now, hypocrites like Geoffrey Howe who near humiliated her in a speech in parliament for one and near started the plotting against her.

What a shower.

Last edited by joeysteele; 08-04-2013 at 07:14 PM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:24 PM #143
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 190,542
Default

Steve Nallon on Ch4 just now
he got her voice Bang On.
arista is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:29 PM #144
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,897


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 65,897


Default

Quote:
How long 'til she starts shutting the furnaces, now she's down there.
My dads facebook status^

My thoughts are with her family. But she royally screwed over both of my grandfathers(both were miners in the north east) so I'm not sad at all that shes gone tbh.
Vicky. is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:37 PM #145
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


Default

life is what you make it. stop blaming your crap lifes on someone who has died.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:45 PM #146
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thesheriff443 View Post
life is what you make it. stop blaming your crap lifes on someone who has died.
Who's doing that?...
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:48 PM #147
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,144

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,144

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
.... and as to this supposed great leader and PM, how did her premiership end again?
Not with any election defeat, not with her going at a time of her choosing, not because of ill health.not because her Family wanted her to and definitely not because she herself even wanted to give up but because her party plotted against her and then stabbed her in the back while she was fighting the UKs corner in Europe.

Cowards then and cowards now. Then look who they replaced her with, John Major??.

I certainly wouldn't have been a supporter of hers had I been born and a voter then but what a despicable party to end her time as PM and leader like that.
Now just listen to all the ramblings of those who destroyed her are saying now, hypocrites like Geoffrey Howe who near humiliated her in a speech in parliament for one and near started the plotting against her.

What a shower.
Well said yet again Joey,she wasn't perfect but boy she stood by what she believed in and what she thought was right.and those Judas's who stabbed her in the back should **** and let her R.I.P,Our family wasn't suppoters either,I was too young to bother either way,but I could see she was different as I grew up.
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"

Last edited by Kazanne; 08-04-2013 at 07:51 PM.
Kazanne is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:50 PM #148
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
Who's doing that?...
everyone that's blaming Margret thatcher for their or their relatives lifes being crap.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:51 PM #149
reece(:'s Avatar
reece(: reece(: is offline
♡☯♡☮♡☯♡☮♡
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Posts: 79,885

Favourites (more):
RPDR UK 2: Bimini Bon Boulash
BBUSA22: Janelle


reece(: reece(: is offline
♡☯♡☮♡☯♡☮♡
reece(:'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England
Posts: 79,885

Favourites (more):
RPDR UK 2: Bimini Bon Boulash
BBUSA22: Janelle


Default

Can someone tell me how she was allowed 11 years as PM, isn't the limit 8?
__________________

Spoiler:

reece(: is offline  
Old 08-04-2013, 07:52 PM #150
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,398


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reece(: View Post
Can someone tell me how she was allowed 11 years as PM, isn't the limit 8?
your thinking of America

Last edited by thesheriff443; 08-04-2013 at 07:53 PM.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
died, margaret, stroke, thatcher


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:00 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts