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Old 22-04-2013, 02:20 PM #126
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..what was interesting about the actual interviews is that Coy would have had to relay so much of how things made her feel, for her parents to assume her to be transgender and yet she says nothing in any of the interviews..and I know she's only 6yrs old, but we're led to believe that she already is certain of her sexuality at that age..?..the 'attention' thing you mentioned is quite interesting though because I knew Coy had quite a few siblings and mostly female, I think..but I didn't know any details about those siblings...
I think reffering to the kid as "HER", "SHE" etc..., in the first place is abusive, and out of order imo. Kids always try to see what they can get away with, but nowadays, there is too much indulgence.
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I think until Puberty or Full Op Transgender re-alignment surgery,

Male Genitalia = Male (Boy)
Female Genitalia = Female (Girl)

That's it...!!! no amount of discussions or analysis can change what nature delivers, any sort of pyschological gender changing therapy is just plain CRUEL...........!!!!!!
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This would be a different situation if the child were a young teenager. Then it would be feasible that the child might have an understanding of gender identity and be able to recognise that he/she doesn't fit in the gender they were born in.

When my son was 6 [and it's a good thing this site is sorta anonymous because he wouldn't be particularly happy with me sharing this now] he was pretty sure he was a rabbit some days. People would ask him what he wanted to be when he grew up, and he'd say 'a scientist'... which seemed like a sensible enough response, until he followed it up with 'so that I can make a secret potion which turns me into a rabbit'.

I didn't go into school and demand that a litter tray be provided for my son to use.

Same thing really.
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This would be a different situation if the child were a young teenager. Then it would be feasible that the child might have an understanding of gender identity and be able to recognise that he/she doesn't fit in the gender they were born in.

When my son was 6 [and it's a good thing this site is sorta anonymous because he wouldn't be particularly happy with me sharing this now] he was pretty sure he was a rabbit some days. People would ask him what he wanted to be when he grew up, and he'd say 'a scientist'... which seemed like a sensible enough response, until he followed it up with 'so that I can make a secret potion which turns me into a rabbit'.

I didn't go into school and demand that a litter tray be provided for my son to use.

Same thing really.
Hilarious! But thats exactly the point. These enablers, are gonna be the end of us all.
Until puberty, nothing like that should be allowed, and that's for the child's sake!
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It does seem a bit odd that kid like this is already feels incompatible with their gender at such a young age (I mean it is a complex thing), but I feel that we shouldn't just write it off altogether because of their age. I mean we're not in the child's head so what could we possibly know? Maybe they do, genuinely feel as if they're the wrong gender. We just don't know. Besides, she is only 6 anyway. I doubt most of the other children would make a fuss if she used the bathroom not meant for her gender if it was carefully explained to them. If it was really that much of an issue, a member of staff could always accompany them into the toilets..

I will say though, that the actions of the parents in exposing this case to such a public discussion seems a little bit dodgy. It does make me wonder about ulterior, attention seeking motives being at play.
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This would be a different situation if the child were a young teenager. Then it would be feasible that the child might have an understanding of gender identity and be able to recognise that he/she doesn't fit in the gender they were born in.

When my son was 6 [and it's a good thing this site is sorta anonymous because he wouldn't be particularly happy with me sharing this now] he was pretty sure he was a rabbit some days. People would ask him what he wanted to be when he grew up, and he'd say 'a scientist'... which seemed like a sensible enough response, until he followed it up with 'so that I can make a secret potion which turns me into a rabbit'.

I didn't go into school and demand that a litter tray be provided for my son to use.

Same thing really.
So, did he use the sandpit .....
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He went on to decide that he was in fact a cat.. so he dug a hole and buried it.
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hahahahaa gender confusion funny subject
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I'm not sure my kid's issue could be described as 'gender confusion'... In fact, I'm not sure there's a word for a 6 year old who thinks he's an animal. :/

I assume your post was about people laughing at the boy/rabbit/cat thing?
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I might not be popular for saying this, but I think 6 years old is far too young to identify as anything. At that age, they might as well identify as a cat or a dog. I think this whole thing boils down to attention-seeking parents. It's kinda sad.
I agree with you on that, but Schools can't go around singling out a student.
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I think the one main plus in all of this is that if Coy Mathis does indeed grow up wishing to be female, or realises he's gay, or anything that isn't heterosexual white male, at least his parents will love and support him. Most people don't know if their parents would support them through anything like that, yet he has media evidence of the fact his parents support him regardless of who he is or wants to be. Cool!
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I think the one main plus in all of this is that if Coy Mathis does indeed grow up wishing to be female, or realises he's gay, or anything that isn't heterosexual white male, at least his parents will love and support him. Most people don't know if their parents would support them through anything like that, yet he has media evidence of the fact his parents support him regardless of who he is or wants to be. Cool!
That's a really nice way of looking at it. I agree.
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