[Livia]

I'm sure that everyone who thinks he's a hero would think otherwise once their own security is threatened.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes could also be loads of False reports to Confuse USA
who want to catch him.

Yes good luck to him

The plane has just arrived in Moscow
I hope he gets keeps away from any USA Agents

Good luck to him for me too.
I have a mixed view overall but I hope he gets asylum.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Good luck to him for me too.
I have a mixed view overall but I hope he gets asylum.

Assange just said he knows
Ed Snowden is a Whistleblower not a traitor.
He also claims he knows where he is.


Another strange report is Russia
is considering to send him to America?
Ref:SkyNewsHD


I hope he is in transit
away from any American control

[Nedusa]

We need more Whistleblowers like this man to let the ordinary man in the street know what is being practised "in their name". There seems to be little or no accountibility anymore with Govt agencies running roughshod over the rights and privacies of millions of people. With almost constant surveillance by CCTV and Satellite and all our calls,texts,E-mails monitored it is no better than living in a police state. It is like the novel 1984 with Big Brother watching everything everybody does.

We are sliding into a fascist Police state but call it Democracy... why worry if you have nothing to hide ?? Yes I've heard that said a few times but once on the slippery slope we become the new targets. the people who speak out about freedom and justice become labelled as "terrorists" and are arrested and detained without charge or reason.

So Yes I commend Whistleblowers like Ed Snowden he is a patriot NOT a traitor and I hope more people in similar positions let the masses know what is being done in their name.

[arista]

He is in The Airport
and Putin said he is free to leave


Feck The American CIA

http://news.sky.com/story/1107989/sn...ed-from-russia

[Roy Mars III]

he's no hero, hopefully he is caught soon

[Me. I Am Salman]

Hero

[Roy Mars III]

he would be a hero is he exposed it and stayed in America, he ran like a coward

[arista]

Reports Venezuela
has agreed to take him.

Better take a route well away from USA airspace
and send a dummy run first to see if its shot down.


ref: SkyNewsHD , France24, CNN , FoxNewsHD,
BBC and EuroNews

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

he would be a hero is he exposed it and stayed in America, he ran like a coward

He ran to stay out of jail. They were gonna try him and he was almost certainly gonna be found guilty.

[letmein]

It's seriously hilarious how arista posts and posts and posts about stuff he knows nothing about. LMFAO!!! Keep it up, babe!

[letmein]

Originally Posted by arista

Assange just said he knows
Ed Snowden is a Whistleblower not a traitor.

He is a traitor, and he will be tried as such. United States citizens want him strung up. He's an attention *****, and he knows he's running out time.

[arista]

Still in Moscow Airport Transit Zone
he is due to meet Human Rights Legal teams

Ref:SkyNewsHD

[Nedusa]

If your elected Government allowed its security agencies to massively exceed their brief and resort to tactics there were immoral, unethical and borderline criminal then wouldn't you want to know about it.

All Govt agencies have to be accountable and all Govts have to be accountable to the people who elect them. They do our work we control them, WE the people that is the basis of democracy.

So if the NSA or the CIA engage in clandestine nefarious activities that affect the lives of millions of people then we NEED to know about it, otherwise we start going down the road of Secret Govt, Fascist/Police state.

So No Edward Snowden is NOT a traitor he is a very brave man who put his own personal freedom and the safety of himself and possibly his family at risk for the greater good.

I hope he finds asylum and can eventually live a reasonably normal life.

[billy123]

He has exposed yet another international crime of one of the most oppressive regimes in the world he had to run they will hound him to his death or make him vanish into one of their illegal confinement units uncharged and stripped of human rights of course he has to run.
The sheeple will say otherwise of course.

Good luck to him.

Its frightening how far gone a lot of people are that they dont even believe in freedom of information i pity them.

[GypsyGoth]

I think Snowden's a criminal. He should stand trial in the US.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think Snowden's a criminal. He should stand trial in the US.

Why what crime has he committed?
He may have broken the equivalent of the the data protection directive which involves a fine.
So why do they want to kill him/torture him/lock him up forever?

Do you have the same opinion when north korea lock up/kill/torture their own citizens for daring to criticize or question their leaders?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Why what crime has he committed?

He revealed methods used by an organisation entrusted with protecting his former country the US. So he gave info that would help prevent terrorists from being caught.

Just because it's some secret spy organisation doesn't make it an evil entity. The powers they have to look into peoples lives is a tool they need to get the job done.

And where is he hiding out, a country that promotes freedom and democracy? No he's in Russia, one of the enemies of both those ideals.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

He revealed methods used by an organisation entrusted with protecting his former country the US. So he gave info that would help prevent terrorists from being caught.

Just because it's some secret spy organisation doesn't make it an evil entity. The powers they have to look into peoples lives is a tool they need to get the job done.

And where is he hiding out, a country that promotes freedom and democracy? No he's in Russia, one of the enemies of both those ideals.

Yes he seems to have found a country that seems willing to protect his human rights a hell of a lot more than the U.S. will its no suprise.
Imagine being hounded to death for breaking the freedom of information act that is the equivalent of what is happening to this man and to many others in his situation.
They are an oppressive regime to be feared.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
Thomas Jefferson

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes

Yes what?

You agree with me, that Snowden is a criminal. Or are you trying to be patronising?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes he seems to have found a country that seems willing to protect his human rights a hell of a lot more than the U.S. will its no suprise.

Right, so he's staying with a country that is the traditional enemy of his former country. Maybe that should give him a clue as to who his actions have actually helped.

He's made it more difficult for terrorist plots to be uncovered, how is that helping the everyday person?

I'm sure everyone in the tinfoil hats thinks of him as some type of hero.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes he seems to have found a country that seems willing to protect his human rights a hell of a lot more than the U.S. will its no suprise.
Imagine being hounded to death for breaking the freedom of information act that is the equivalent of what is happening to this man and to many others in his situation.

But it wasn't his place to pull back the curtain and let it be know to regular people how they're being spied on. People panic and act stupid, I'd much rather trust an organisation like the CIA.

What's the alternative? To have the CIA apply for a warrant from a judge any time they want to spy on someone in the world, how does that help protect people?

And what about the rights of the people he's endangered? Or do his human rights come before them?

Maybe if he didn't like his country, he should have renounced his citizenship and defected to russia. From what I can see, he hasn't benefited the world, in fact he's made it a more unsafe place with his revelations.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Right, so he's staying with a country that is the traditional enemy of his former country. Maybe that should give him a clue as to who his actions have actually helped.

He's made it more difficult for terrorist plots to be uncovered, how is that helping the everyday person?

I'm sure everyone in the tinfoil hats thinks of him as some type of hero.

Ok your mentions of tinfoils hats and accusations of being patronising in your last two posts are enough.
I have my opinions and you have yours that wont change.(i havent resorted to trying to belittle yours)
Peace miss gypsy.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Why what crime has he committed?
He may have broken the equivalent of the the data protection directive which involves a fine.
So why do they want to kill him/torture him/lock him up forever?

Do you have the same opinion when north korea lock up/kill/torture their own citizens for daring to criticize or question their leaders?

North Korea is the type of place that would welcome Snowden, he'd be a hero to them. So no I don't agree with places like that.

And if Snowden is innocent and has committed no crime, it'll come out in his trial, but since he's running and hiding from the US. He must know that he's done serious harm to them, it's a lot more serious than breaking some data protection act with his employer.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

He revealed methods used by an organisation entrusted with protecting his former country the US. So he gave info that would help prevent terrorists from being caught.

Just because it's some secret spy organisation doesn't make it an evil entity. The powers they have to look into peoples lives is a tool they need to get the job done.

And where is he hiding out, a country that promotes freedom and democracy? No he's in Russia, one of the enemies of both those ideals.

Sure No worse than the President Murdering Millions
with Drones that kill children near the targets